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glob99 Apr 28, 2017 1:22 pm

Some tempered glass protectors.


WIRunner Apr 28, 2017 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by HawaiiTrvlr (Post 28241641)
So after less than 24 hours, I had to go back to the Verizon store to get help with their tempered glass. I literally had to swipe a half dozen times to get it to work (and I still couldnt get the hot key screen to drop down. They said it was the only tempered glass available (for now). I am going to try Amazon and see if I can get one that I like (and works). I did get the clerk (different from yesterday) admit that it should work better and gave me a full refund. I will just have to be careful with the screen until I get a new protector installed.

They said the clock widget could not be changed but hoped it would be in a software update soon.

I would probably go with a film style one. The "full coverage" glass protectors will have the same problems you're experiencing now. The issue is that the adhesive isn't on the entire face of the protector. The ones that have full adhesive, don't provide "full coverage" but instead leave the sides exposed. It is a bit of a catch-22.

If you go on amazon you'll see a bunch that have black on the top and bottom, that is where the adhesive is, they'll have the same problems you're experiencing. IQ Shield makes a wet install one, which with the phone being waterproof is a cinch to install, that gives full coverage.

WIRunner Apr 28, 2017 7:45 pm

I'm feeling better that it 1, wasn't me; 2, I'm not crazy.

Galaxy S8 users are getting plagued by random restarts

Dubai Stu Apr 29, 2017 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 28236886)
I've got the UAE Retail unit, which is DUOS.

What would you like to know?

Question 1. How much is the unlocked version running assume the 128 gig version. A quote in Dhms is fine;

Question 2. I presume the UAE has the VOIP part of the stock dialer disabled. Am I correct?

Question 3. What frequencies does the second SIM slot support? (Full HSPA I'm hoping);

Question 4. What LTE bands does the primary slot support.

By the way, I'm no longer in the UAE but go back semi-regularly. I had this handle years and debated whether I should change it to something else but just left it alone. My wife will be there in ten days so she might be buying me a present.

FoxCL9 Apr 29, 2017 9:20 pm


Originally Posted by Dubai Stu (Post 28245691)
Question 1. How much is the unlocked version running assume the 128 gig version. A quote in Dhms is fine;

Question 2. I presume the UAE has the VOIP part of the stock dialer disabled. Am I correct?

Question 3. What frequencies does the second SIM slot support? (Full HSPA I'm hoping);

Question 4. What LTE bands does the primary slot support.

By the way, I'm no longer in the UAE but go back semi-regularly. I had this handle years and debated whether I should change it to something else but just left it alone. My wife will be there in ten days so she might be buying me a present.

Answer 1: The Unlocked Galaxy S8 (64GB) is 2,799 AED and the Galaxy S8 Plus (64GB) is 3,099 AED. Neither of them are currently available in 128GB configurations, that model is only available in South Korea / China.

Answer 2: Yes.

Though the Galaxy S8 has this nifty feature where it changes the CSC of your device based on the SIM card inserted. The default CSC for UAE is XSG, but upon inserting a Pakistani SIM card and then booting up the phone for the first time, it prompted me with a message about changing the device configuration or so, it required a full factory reset regardless of me not even going through setup, the first boot after that took about 5 minutes. Once it did, the phone had its CSC changed to PAK rather than the default UAE one.

Samsung has grouped many CSCs into a multi-CSC code called OXM, so if you insert a British SIM card, or a European one, your phone should automatically adjust itself to a Galaxy S8 that was purchased in the country where you currently are. It only requires that you insert your SIM card while the phone is turned off, and then start it up for the first time and accept the pop-up upon turning it on.
The dialer should then have no issues with VoLTE or VOIP in the country you're in.

Answer 3: I haven't checked actually, but I believe it's the same on the S7 edge. SIM 1 will run at LTE/3G/2G and the SIM Slot 2 will run at 2G only. I will get back to you on this for sure though.
This may also be a limitation of the CSC code as I mentioned above. Some countries do allow LTE on SIM 1 and HSPA on SIM 2, but in my case neither Pakistan nor UAE do, so I carry 2 phones around and have an SD Card in the Galaxy S8 instead.

Answer 4:
FDD: B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8 / B12 / B13 / B17 / B18 / B19 / B20 / B25 / B26 / B28
TDD: B38 / B39 / B40 / B41 / B42 / B66

Where are you located currently? If in the EU or UK, these bands should work perfectly fine with local networks. They may not be fully compatible with LTE in the US though.

HawaiiTrvlr May 3, 2017 11:54 am

I have to say I really like my S8 after 6 days. I have it set so I don't have to unlock it while I am home. I even like the fingerprint unlock (I didn't use the feature on my S7 so I didnt care if it moved from front to the back). I am still on the lookout for a screen protector but I am pretty careful about phones overall.

I bought a case from a seller on Amazon that arrived over the weekend. I didn't care for it and will return it (just a basic black plastic cover). The one I bought when I got the phone is working out better (though I paid $30 for it). Plus it is much better looking.

Points Scrounger May 5, 2017 8:57 am

I used the fingerprint a lot on my S6 with Samsung Pay - trust me, this is a step backwards; although, I find my print is recognized fairly easily. I use the same style $10 J&D case as with the old phone. Put in a 64GB card (purchased to meet an Amazon add-on minimum for something else) which should be easily more storage than I'll likely ever need.

mrcamp May 5, 2017 11:21 am

Those bands are compatible with AT&T and Tmobile in the US as well. The main LTE bands needed are 2/4/5/12/17. Sim 2 (if only 2G) would be useless on AT&T. They killed their 2G off late last year.

Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 28246678)
Answer 4:
FDD: B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8 / B12 / B13 / B17 / B18 / B19 / B20 / B25 / B26 / B28
TDD: B38 / B39 / B40 / B41 / B42 / B66

Where are you located currently? If in the EU or UK, these bands should work perfectly fine with local networks. They may not be fully compatible with LTE in the US though.


LordHamster May 5, 2017 6:13 pm

I'm an Android Purist, but I LOVE the idea of Samsung Pay. So as attractive as the S8 is, I can't stomach Samsung's crapware. My solution? Pair a Pixel XL and a Gear S3. Best of both worlds. :)

FoxCL9 May 5, 2017 9:21 pm


Originally Posted by mrcamp (Post 28272502)
Those bands are compatible with AT&T and Tmobile in the US as well. The main LTE bands needed are 2/4/5/12/17. Sim 2 (if only 2G) would be useless on AT&T. They killed their 2G off late last year.

LTE bands may be compatible, but I'm not sure of Samsung's Carrier Aggregation setup on the international model, it may only connect to single band LTE and not take advantage of AT&T or T-Mobile's LTE-A network.
In short, LTE will connect, but it'll probably be congested and slow since it's all on one band.

gobluetwo May 6, 2017 10:44 am


Originally Posted by Points Scrounger (Post 28271896)
I used the fingerprint a lot on my S6 with Samsung Pay - trust me, this is a step backwards; although, I find my print is recognized fairly easily. I use the same style $10 J&D case as with the old phone. Put in a 64GB card (purchased to meet an Amazon add-on minimum for something else) which should be easily more storage than I'll likely ever need.

How so? I also use Samsung Pay with fingerprint all the time on my S6. I may have to wait for the S9 with fingerprint scanner embedded in the front glass...

Points Scrounger May 6, 2017 2:47 pm

The fingerprint on reverse is awkwardly place to line up in the recessed fingerprint and camera space, though some of that may be because of my phone case adding extra depth to that "slot"? Tapping my finger on the front of the S6 was a very smooth action. I'll likely trade up to the S9 if they put the fingerprint back in the front.

Reds2011 May 7, 2017 6:32 am


Originally Posted by Dubai Stu (Post 28245691)
Question 3. What frequencies does the second SIM slot support? (Full HSPA I'm hoping);


Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 28246678)
Answer 3: I haven't checked actually, but I believe it's the same on the S7 edge. SIM 1 will run at LTE/3G/2G and the SIM Slot 2 will run at 2G only. I will get back to you on this for sure though.
This may also be a limitation of the CSC code as I mentioned above. Some countries do allow LTE on SIM 1 and HSPA on SIM 2, but in my case neither Pakistan nor UAE do, so I carry 2 phones around and have an SD Card in the Galaxy S8 instead.

The S7 upgrade to Android N removed the limitation on SIM2 being 2G only. It can now run on 3G, although not sure if it will go any further. Mine is a UAE phone and this worked fine in Europe recently.

I would expect the S8 will be much the same, certainly it won't be 2G only.

wco81 May 7, 2017 12:21 pm

Why would you pay so much for a phone that doesn't get full LTE in the US?

I know they use their own processor instead of Qualcomm for that international version.

But are you going to pay regular prices for US cell service but only get 3G speeds in the US?

I can see if you travel a lot and the international version gets full LTE speeds overseas while the US version doesn't.

WIRunner May 7, 2017 12:27 pm


Originally Posted by wco81 (Post 28280076)
Why would you pay so much for a phone that doesn't get full LTE in the US?

I know they use their own processor instead of Qualcomm for that international version.

But are you going to pay regular prices for US cell service but only get 3G speeds in the US?

I can see if you travel a lot and the international version gets full LTE speeds overseas while the US version doesn't.

If someone doesn't get to the US often it might make sense. Also, for someone that does travel a lot, the 2nd sim slot is useful for not having to swap phone numbers/sim cards around. Makes it easier. Lastly, for a frequent traveler, again not US based I guess, multiple sims means you have a better chance of getting the best rates.


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