I Used My RFID Implant In My Hand As A Room Key, Hotel Staff Proceeded To Freak Out.
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I Used My RFID Implant In My Hand As A Room Key, Hotel Staff Proceeded To Freak Out.
Hope I didn't post this in the wrong spot, apologies if I did, I wasn't sure exactly where to post this.
So, I have two RFID chips implanted into my hands (one in each hand), they were purchased from a well known manufacturer who follows all medical safety protocols (sterilizing, packaging, etc...). Both implants were done by my doctor, who also frequently checks for complications/issues (I've had none). I've had one in my left hand for two year, the other for 6 months.
Why two? Well, the first one is a more versatile type of RFID that I use to control various things around my house (unlock my door, open my garage, activate "scenes" with lights/shades/TV, to just name a few).
The second, more recent implant was done with the only objective being to use it with the very common MiFare Ultralight RFID systems. I'm actually the first person (that I know of... the community for this type of thing is quite small) with an implant of this type, and I've used it at ~10 hotels so far. Without getting too technical, I'll briefly explain how I'm able to clone my hotel room key. Most hotels use the MiFare Ultralight system because of it's low cost and ease of programming. In most cases cloning/copying the key cards is not possible, as the UID hard coded/locked into the key card has to match. Recently keycards with re-writable UIDs have become available from China, and the IC from those cards are what I have in my hand, I'm the human "beta tester" as I travel frequently to hotels with RFID keycard systems.
It's worked quite well, when I'm issued a key at the hotel I get into my room, and using a read/writer and some fairly "technical" programs (it can be done with an app on Android devices with NFC, or so I'm told) I copy the key to my hand. It really doesn't take much longer than it takes me to log on to the hotel WiFi, and it's pretty nice to not have to worry about losing a key. Plus you feel like some lazy wizard who only uses his power for mundane things like unlocking doors.
Today I was finally spotted using my hand-key, honestly I never really thought about hiding it. I was entering from a side entrance and an employee was smoking as I approached and was apparently watching closer than I thought because as soon as I swiped my hand they stopped me "Hey, how did you do that?!?" I knew this was going to be tough. I explained the implant in my hand, and that I can copy room keys onto it, in more basic terms than I'm using here. They seemed to think it was pretty odd, but neat, I continued about my business.
An hour later I hear a knock at my door... crap. I opened it and there was a two employees (one identified as a manager, the other... I have no idea) asking to speak with me. They came in, and asked about me being able to hack their doors with my hand... or something to that effect. I explained everything above, showing them the USB reader/writer I use and everything... I'm doing nothing wrong, I have nothing to hide.
It took a good bit of explanation and reasoning to convince them that I hadn't done something nefarious. They asked things like, Could I use it as a "master key"? Technically... yes, but I'd need to be VERY (10cm or so) to a master key to copy it, and that would be illegal. Also, just because I can doesn't mean I am... I can pick locks, doesn't mean I go around doing B&Es. After they understood it better they seemed to calm down and no longer think that I somehow had access to every door in the hotel... They still clearly think I'm absolutely insane, as I'm sure many of you will.
Lesson learned, I'll make sure to be less obvious about my use going forward... the world's just not ready for my "magic".
Disclaimer: I'm aware that RFID implants can be controversial, this isn't meant to be an endorsement/encouragement for anyone reading this to replicate what I'm doing. I do so under supervision from my doctor, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
So, I have two RFID chips implanted into my hands (one in each hand), they were purchased from a well known manufacturer who follows all medical safety protocols (sterilizing, packaging, etc...). Both implants were done by my doctor, who also frequently checks for complications/issues (I've had none). I've had one in my left hand for two year, the other for 6 months.
Why two? Well, the first one is a more versatile type of RFID that I use to control various things around my house (unlock my door, open my garage, activate "scenes" with lights/shades/TV, to just name a few).
The second, more recent implant was done with the only objective being to use it with the very common MiFare Ultralight RFID systems. I'm actually the first person (that I know of... the community for this type of thing is quite small) with an implant of this type, and I've used it at ~10 hotels so far. Without getting too technical, I'll briefly explain how I'm able to clone my hotel room key. Most hotels use the MiFare Ultralight system because of it's low cost and ease of programming. In most cases cloning/copying the key cards is not possible, as the UID hard coded/locked into the key card has to match. Recently keycards with re-writable UIDs have become available from China, and the IC from those cards are what I have in my hand, I'm the human "beta tester" as I travel frequently to hotels with RFID keycard systems.
It's worked quite well, when I'm issued a key at the hotel I get into my room, and using a read/writer and some fairly "technical" programs (it can be done with an app on Android devices with NFC, or so I'm told) I copy the key to my hand. It really doesn't take much longer than it takes me to log on to the hotel WiFi, and it's pretty nice to not have to worry about losing a key. Plus you feel like some lazy wizard who only uses his power for mundane things like unlocking doors.
Today I was finally spotted using my hand-key, honestly I never really thought about hiding it. I was entering from a side entrance and an employee was smoking as I approached and was apparently watching closer than I thought because as soon as I swiped my hand they stopped me "Hey, how did you do that?!?" I knew this was going to be tough. I explained the implant in my hand, and that I can copy room keys onto it, in more basic terms than I'm using here. They seemed to think it was pretty odd, but neat, I continued about my business.
An hour later I hear a knock at my door... crap. I opened it and there was a two employees (one identified as a manager, the other... I have no idea) asking to speak with me. They came in, and asked about me being able to hack their doors with my hand... or something to that effect. I explained everything above, showing them the USB reader/writer I use and everything... I'm doing nothing wrong, I have nothing to hide.
It took a good bit of explanation and reasoning to convince them that I hadn't done something nefarious. They asked things like, Could I use it as a "master key"? Technically... yes, but I'd need to be VERY (10cm or so) to a master key to copy it, and that would be illegal. Also, just because I can doesn't mean I am... I can pick locks, doesn't mean I go around doing B&Es. After they understood it better they seemed to calm down and no longer think that I somehow had access to every door in the hotel... They still clearly think I'm absolutely insane, as I'm sure many of you will.
Lesson learned, I'll make sure to be less obvious about my use going forward... the world's just not ready for my "magic".
Disclaimer: I'm aware that RFID implants can be controversial, this isn't meant to be an endorsement/encouragement for anyone reading this to replicate what I'm doing. I do so under supervision from my doctor, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Wow. Bizarre.
Didn't know any of that was possible.
Do you have any links so I read more about this technology?
Also, I'd assume you could use the same idea with some sort of key fob instead of having it implanted? (Wouldn't be as wizardly, of course)
(Don't want to actually do it, but sounds interesting. More curious than anything, as I'm sure others here are as well)
Didn't know any of that was possible.
Do you have any links so I read more about this technology?
Also, I'd assume you could use the same idea with some sort of key fob instead of having it implanted? (Wouldn't be as wizardly, of course)
(Don't want to actually do it, but sounds interesting. More curious than anything, as I'm sure others here are as well)
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This is a truly amazing, if not bizarre thread.
So do you apple pay with your palm? Just wave your hand over the card reader?
What other applications can you swipe your mitts?
So do you apple pay with your palm? Just wave your hand over the card reader?
What other applications can you swipe your mitts?
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Wow. Bizarre.
Didn't know any of that was possible.
Do you have any links so I read more about this technology?
Also, I'd assume you could use the same idea with some sort of key fob instead of having it implanted? (Wouldn't be as wizardly, of course)
(Don't want to actually do it, but sounds interesting. More curious than anything, as I'm sure others here are as well)
Didn't know any of that was possible.
Do you have any links so I read more about this technology?
Also, I'd assume you could use the same idea with some sort of key fob instead of having it implanted? (Wouldn't be as wizardly, of course)
(Don't want to actually do it, but sounds interesting. More curious than anything, as I'm sure others here are as well)
As far as implants go, Dangerous Things is the most well know (they do great work and provide comprehensive guides/support), there's a few others, including the company I'm "testing" my Ultralight implant with... but this is one of those things where if you're truly interested, do the research and take the time to become supremely familiar with what you're getting yourself in to.
EDIT: Here's a video clip that show the removal process for the RFID IC and antenna:
I'm using them all over my "smart home" to control pretty much everything, when I arrive home it disarms my security system, opens my garage door, turns on the lights, depending on the time of day it will turn on other lights, and set AC to my desired temperature (unless I remembered to hit the "on my way home" button on my phone, then it's already set). There's lots of cool things you can do. You're biggest limiting factor is system compatibility, which is no issue if you're outfitting your home...
I said "implant in my hand" not "implant in my eyeball"... I would've gone with eyeball if it was April Fools, this is actually believable... I mean we already stick an RFID chip in our dogs to track them, how is this so much different?
Last edited by MrGoods; Oct 19, 2016 at 7:19 pm
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On the odd chance this is true - how would the hotel staff know you used your hand, how close were you to the smoking employee and how did the person match you to your room? - a big NO from me. Would any doctor actually do this for anything other than an actual medical condition?
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On the odd chance this is true - how would the hotel staff know you used your hand, how close were you to the smoking employee and how did the person match you to your room? - a big NO from me. Would any doctor actually do this for anything other than an actual medical condition?
Yes, doctors will do this, mine is also quite good friends with my grandfather, a well known retired pediatrician and teacher for some time. It certainly took some convincing and he took the time to investigate it himself, but had no issues with it after he got comfortable/familiar with it.
Many people who do this get it implanted at a tattoo and piercing place, they're typically more up to such procedures, but as stated above I'm quite close with my family doc and I'm certain that played a big part in him being willing to do it for me.
Edit: A picture's worth a thousand words, and scars always have a story... so here's a picture of the scar from my most recent implant. You can also see the implant under my skin but it's near impossible to show in a picture (I tried...)
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I've read about these subcutaneous RFID implants before, it is really a thing: http://www.popsci.com/my-boring-cyborg-implant Very conceivable to copy his key info to his chip.
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I've read about these subcutaneous RFID implants before, it is really a thing: http://www.popsci.com/my-boring-cyborg-implant Very conceivable to copy his key info to his chip.
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I used to own stock in an rfid chip company that was testing applications on humans. That's was like 20 years ago. Perhaps I shouldn't have sold it for pennies
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More to the point, the "biggest" company in this hobby is Dangerous Things, and that's one dude working out of his garage, barely scraping by. There's no money to be had in this market anytime soon.
Thanks? The years not over yet, maybe somebody will beat "hotel key implant" .