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gfunkdave Dec 13, 2013 9:38 am

Gmail Changes - Default to Show External Content
 
Google recently announced it was switching Gmail to automatically display external images instead of making the user click a button to do so. This means that email marketers will be able to see when you open an email - they frequently put tracking images in emails. Google is also moving to having its servers get these images for you, so that Google can scan them for known malware and hide your IP from the email marketers.

Be sure to go back into your Gmail settings today and set the External Content setting to Ask before displaying external content if this is important to you.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013...ght-and-today/

lhrsfo Dec 13, 2013 9:43 am

Tried to do this but cannot find any External Content setting!

boberonicus Dec 13, 2013 9:51 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 21959990)
having its servers get these images for you, so that Google can scan them for known malware and hide your IP from the email marketers.

Well that's a start, but isn't it missing the mark? Don't the embedded images contained references to the destination email address? That is, a unique serial number in the URL is linked to the email address the marketer/spammer is trying to reach. And displaying the image validates that the destination email address is still working, right? If I was a spammer, I'd ensure that an image could not be retrieved merely by shortening the URL.

In any case, great info and thanks for sharing!

boberonicus Dec 13, 2013 9:59 am


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 21960014)
Tried to do this but cannot find any External Content setting!

  1. Login to Gmail
  2. Click on the little "wheel" on the top right corner.
  3. Select "Settings" (about halfway down the list)
  4. Three lines down, look for "external content"
  5. Click the radio button for "Ask before displaying external content"
But in Google's defense, the default setting is to display images sent by trusted senders although I'm not sure who is "trusted".

gfunkdave Dec 13, 2013 10:03 am


Originally Posted by boberonicus (Post 21960100)
But in Google's defense, the default setting is to display images for trusted senders although I'm not sure what that means..

In the help, it seems to indicate that anyone is trusted if Google's spam filters don't flag them as spammers/malware distributors.

And yes, images frequently contain user-specific urls. This doesn't change the tracking; it just hides your IP. People sending these won't see your IP when they look who downloaded it. They'll see that (for example) gfunkdave downloaded the image from a Google server.

Analise Dec 13, 2013 11:17 am


Originally Posted by boberonicus (Post 21960100)
  1. Login to Gmail
  2. Click on the little "wheel" on the top right corner.
  3. Select "Settings" (about halfway down the list)
  4. Three lines down, look for "external content"
  5. Click the radio button for "Ask before displaying external content"

I'm in "Settings" but I don't see "external content". I even did a search for those words and didn't come up with anything. Is it the "Settings" under the "General" tab?

Three lines down after selecting "Settings" is "Maximum Page Size". Below that is "Images" in which we have the choice to "Ask before displaying images". Is that what you mean?

lhrsfo Dec 13, 2013 11:25 am


Originally Posted by boberonicus (Post 21960100)
  1. Login to Gmail
  2. Click on the little "wheel" on the top right corner.
  3. Select "Settings" (about halfway down the list)
  4. Three lines down, look for "external content"
  5. Click the radio button for "Ask before displaying external content"
But in Google's defense, the default setting is to display images sent by trusted senders although I'm not sure who is "trusted".

Thanks for this. Mine was four sections down, under "Images" and referred instead to "external images" but I presume that's what you meant. The whole thing is as clear as mud, especially as it gives no hint as to what the control actually means.

gfunkdave Dec 13, 2013 11:49 am

Perhaps a screen shot will help people.

http://i.imgur.com/9oNpnpM.png

Loren Pechtel Dec 13, 2013 2:13 pm

No. What Google is actually doing is cacheing those images on it's servers when the mail comes in. When you view the message you actually see what's on their server.

This only lets the sender know the message was received by Google, not that it was actually looked at.

gfunkdave Dec 13, 2013 2:58 pm


Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel (Post 21961459)
No. What Google is actually doing is cacheing those images on it's servers when the mail comes in. When you view the message you actually see what's on their server.

This only lets the sender know the message was received by Google, not that it was actually looked at.

Many such images have custom URL components unique for each user - if that particular URL is fetched then the marketer knows that that user's copy of the image has been requested.

Analise Dec 13, 2013 4:26 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 21960710)
Perhaps a screen shot will help people.

http://i.imgur.com/9oNpnpM.png

The screen shot was very helpful. I must have a different version from yours but the same as lhrsfo. Where you highlighted "External content", mine says "Images". To the right, we have a choice of:

Always display external images
Ask before displaying external images


I chose the bottom one as it seemed close enough to your recommendation.

gfunkdave Dec 13, 2013 5:06 pm


Originally Posted by Analise (Post 21962093)
The screen shot was very helpful. I must have a different version from yours but the same as lhrsfo. Where you highlighted "External content", mine says "Images". To the right, we have a choice of:

Always display external images
Ask before displaying external images


I chose the bottom one as it seemed close enough to your recommendation.

Interesting, apparently they have different versions for different people. Same setting, though.

cblaisd Dec 13, 2013 5:53 pm

Thanks for the heads up. One would think Google could manage to send out an email to its users about this change; it's pretty significant.

docbert Dec 13, 2013 6:34 pm


Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel (Post 21961459)
No. What Google is actually doing is cacheing those images on it's servers when the mail comes in. When you view the message you actually see what's on their server.

This only lets the sender know the message was received by Google, not that it was actually looked at.

No, they are caching it the first time you access the email.

It's still causing pain for marketing/tracking images, because although they can tell you opened the email, they are not seeing many of the details that are normally visible (user agent/device time, IP address, etc).

There's a number of sites tracking the impact of these changes on email - such as http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2013/1...gmail-caching/

LIH Prem Dec 13, 2013 6:48 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 21962273)
Interesting, apparently they have different versions for different people. Same setting, though.

My default gmail account has "images", the other 2 I checked show "trusted senders".

weird.


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