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KRSW Apr 30, 2015 8:55 am

Google's been getting worse about this lately... Lollipop (Android) seems to be a step backwards than forwards from KitKat. No lock-screen music controls, Gallery is gone, no Reboot option, Blocking Mode replaced with dumbed down DnD mode...

Then there's all of the great companies out there Google bought, then killed off. SageTV was an awesome product. Still would be, but Google bought it, then stopped selling it and never did anything with it. Postini was well-loved, but Google also ate that up and got rid of it as well.

It's almost time for another company to pick up on the progress where Google left off.

WWGuy Apr 30, 2015 9:16 am

You can still view classic version at this link... for now.

https://www.google.com/lochp

KRSW Apr 30, 2015 10:13 am


Originally Posted by WWGuy (Post 24744809)
You can still view classic version at this link... for now.

https://www.google.com/lochp

Bookmarked! Thank you! That version also works a lot faster on this aging company-assigned laptop.

Cloudship Apr 30, 2015 1:28 pm

I think Google has switched from taking over companies to improve their own products to taking over companies to prevent competition from forcing them to improve their own products. I will say they have at least fixed maps enough that it doesn't crash all the time on me.

only when I am within a mile or so of my destination does it crash now.:rolleyes:

CPRich Apr 30, 2015 1:50 pm


Originally Posted by WWGuy (Post 24744809)
You can still view classic version at this link... for now.

https://www.google.com/lochp

Unfortunately - "This version of Google Maps is updating soon.". That message showed up on my regular page only a few days before the forced switch.

cblaisd Apr 30, 2015 3:00 pm

Not that it will likely make a difference, but there's an online petition regarding the sheer awfulness of the new Google Maps and asking that the old version be brought back as an option:

https://www.change.org/p/larry-page-...ic-google-maps

And this is a good, if depressing, list of the changes in the new "improved" maps:

http://techforluddites.com/google-is...maps-for-good/

stimpy Apr 30, 2015 3:04 pm

I don't get it? When I go to maps.google.com I get the full version, not a lite version. And it works just fine. Where's the problem?

BorussiaMG Apr 30, 2015 3:53 pm


Originally Posted by WWGuy (Post 24744809)
You can still view classic version at this link... for now.

https://www.google.com/lochp

Thanks a lot. That was new to me.

milepig Apr 30, 2015 5:00 pm


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 24746681)
I don't get it? When I go to maps.google.com I get the full version, not a lite version. And it works just fine. Where's the problem?

Try printing a set of maps with step by step directions. Drop dead easy in the old version.

WIRunner Apr 30, 2015 5:54 pm


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 24747265)
Try printing a set of maps with step by step directions. Drop dead easy in the old version.

Click on the route you want, click on details, then click the printer icon, choose map no map. The system dialog box opens up. Doesn't seem overly difficult, unless we're seeing different screens.

Cloudship Apr 30, 2015 6:31 pm

Are we talking the android app or the web based version?

HDQDD Apr 30, 2015 6:32 pm


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 24747265)
Try printing a set of maps

People still do that? :)

stimpy May 1, 2015 2:44 am


Originally Posted by HDQDD (Post 24747578)
People still do that? :)

Hah, that's what I thought. Why not just buy a map at a service station? I thought one of the main points of Google maps was to avoid paper maps.

And to be clear, I was talking about the web version. I also use the iOS version which works fine too. No issues for me anyways.

richarddd May 1, 2015 5:45 am


Originally Posted by KRSW (Post 24744687)
Google's been getting worse about this lately... Lollipop (Android) seems to be a step backwards than forwards from KitKat. No lock-screen music controls,<snip>

I went back to KitKat for the lock-screen music controls. It's much easier to touch the play button than to swipe, enter pin and then hit play. And why the bleep do we have to swipe before entering a pin on Lollipop - why can't the number pad be on the lockscreen like on KK?

gobluetwo May 1, 2015 7:04 am


Originally Posted by richarddd (Post 24749313)
I went back to KitKat for the lock-screen music controls. It's much easier to touch the play button than to swipe, enter pin and then hit play. And why the bleep do we have to swipe before entering a pin on Lollipop - why can't the number pad be on the lockscreen like on KK?

Because that's what Apple does? Maybe mysterious pocket logins? Who knows.

SRQ Guy May 1, 2015 7:14 am


Originally Posted by richarddd (Post 24749313)
I went back to KitKat for the lock-screen music controls. It's much easier to touch the play button than to swipe, enter pin and then hit play. And why the bleep do we have to swipe before entering a pin on Lollipop - why can't the number pad be on the lockscreen like on KK?

I have lock screen music controls (without having to swipe or enter my PIN) on Lollipop on my Nexus 6. Which music app are you using?

richarddd May 1, 2015 2:56 pm


Originally Posted by SRQ Guy (Post 24749627)
I have lock screen music controls (without having to swipe or enter my PIN) on Lollipop on my Nexus 6. Which music app are you using?

Is the lockscreen music control there all of the time? I have it when playing music (and shortly thereafter) with many music apps, but not otherwise.

HMO May 1, 2015 3:29 pm


Originally Posted by HDQDD (Post 24747578)
People still do that? :)


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 24748879)
Hah, that's what I thought. Why not just buy a map at a service station? I thought one of the main points of Google maps was to avoid paper maps.

And to be clear, I was talking about the web version. I also use the iOS version which works fine too. No issues for me anyways.

My mother. Yesterday I went with her (at her car) to pick up my nephew at school, and she got a paper map to show me the route she was willing to do in order to go to my brother's home... :cool:

WIRunner May 1, 2015 4:11 pm


Originally Posted by SRQ Guy (Post 24749627)
I have lock screen music controls (without having to swipe or enter my PIN) on Lollipop on my Nexus 6. Which music app are you using?

Just checked the Nexus 4 and it did the same with Spotify and Google Music. Not sure what this has to do with Google Maps though.

Indelaware May 1, 2015 10:38 pm


Originally Posted by WWGuy (Post 24744809)
You can still view classic version at this link... for now.

https://www.google.com/lochp

Thanks.

One would think that a successful company like Google would no better than to try to fix things which aren't broken. The cynic in me thinks it is all a scheme by webdesigners to stay employed. They convince Google management that they are needed because what is already designed isn't really the best.

So many google failures of late... Google+, the new Google Mail compose, and now new Google maps.

cblaisd May 15, 2015 11:29 pm


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 24746301)
Unfortunately - "This version of Google Maps is updating soon.". That message showed up on my regular page only a few days before the forced switch.

Maybe there's hope.... That message no longer shows up for me when using the classic link.

Cloudship May 16, 2015 12:50 am

I have noticed in the last few days that when driving at night, the map occasionally "flashes". I have been too busy driving to catch what it is doing at the exact time. Has anyone else noticed this?

P.S. Why does it seem to have the worst time with wrong directions and lanes in Google's hometown?

cblaisd May 29, 2015 8:34 am


Originally Posted by WWGuy (Post 24744809)
You can still view classic version at this link... for now.

https://www.google.com/lochp

That link now goes to the new and "improved" -- NOT! -- Google maps.

Sigh.

WWGuy May 29, 2015 12:02 pm

Try this link:

https://maps.google.com/maps?output=classi

cblaisd May 29, 2015 12:15 pm

Excellent. Thank you.

AnitaBryant63 May 29, 2015 12:22 pm

Yeah its brutal....However for a lot of my travel planning, I use rome2rio.com

cblaisd Jun 3, 2015 6:32 pm


Originally Posted by WWGuy (Post 24888149)


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 24888248)
Excellent. Thank you.

Sigh. Link now takes you to the crappy "improved" maps.

For the moment, this one
http://maps.google.com/maps/myplaces
still works

HMO Jun 6, 2015 5:06 pm


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 24915216)
Sigh. Link now takes you to the crappy "improved" maps.

For the moment, this one
http://maps.google.com/maps/myplaces
still works

Thanks. I know at some point we will be obligated to use the "improved" one, but I still want to use the old version as long as possible ^

cblaisd Jun 12, 2015 9:29 am


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 24915216)
For the moment, this one
http://maps.google.com/maps/myplaces
still works

And it's dead, Jim.

But this one:
https://www.google.com/maps/mms
and this one
https://www.google.com/maps/mmtypeanythinghere
and this one
http://www.google.com/maps/mmbringbackclassic

are still working.

Someone has created an attempt to replicate Classic Google Maps here:
http://gokml.net/maps
It's clunkier but has the same map interface and allows dragging of routes.

cblaisd Jun 24, 2015 8:46 am


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 24960026)

And now Google has shut down all of these. So frustrating.

The Bring Back Google Maps Campaign page still has some resources:


Working Classic Maps URLs

You can still access Classic Maps at www.google.com/mapmaker. You can’t currently make edits to it, which is what it was designed for, but you can get the basic Maps functionality. You do need to click the Edit link at the top to access the Directions feature (right-clicking isn’t working for me) and the split-screen has the map at the top and the street view at the bottom, but it’s still a lot closer to Classic Maps than the new ones.

Also thanks to reader John for sharing a whole slew of URLs that incorporate Classic Maps!

www.theaa.com/route-planner/index.jsp

shipspotting.com/ais/index.php

http://www.sunearthtools.com/dp/tool...th.php?lang=en

www.heywhatsthat.com/

www.westernhvdclink.co.uk/map-of-route.aspx

He also has this great recommendation:

“Also try other websites which may include a map. e.g. Weather, Earthquakes, Fire-Risk, Traffic, Skiing, Surfing, Gliding, Shipping, Air Traffic, Internet Cable Routes & Traffic, National Parks, Tourism.”

http://techforluddites.com/bring-bac...maps-campaign/

wco81 Sep 1, 2015 12:35 pm

iOS update of Google Maps brings back the ability to open custom My Maps that you create.

Finally!

After like 3 years.

ajGoes Sep 21, 2015 9:09 am

Google Maps -- I Mostly Like it Fine. It could handle French better though.
 
I don't really hate the not-so-new-anymore updated Google Maps (for Android, if it matters). I've pretty much forgotten whatever features the old version offered that still aren't available in the new one.

However, I did find it amusing a couple of weeks ago when the only way I could find to make Maps read navigation directions comprehensibly in Quebec was to switch the whole phone's language to French. I'm pretty sure Maps used to let me choose its language independently.

Hearing the English-US voice mangle French names was amusing, but I had a lot of trouble decoding the words. I speak French, so it was kind of cool to have the phone in a different language for a while, leaving traces in my emails, Facebook, Evernote, etc. But it will be an entirely different story when I travel somewhere where I don't know the language.

FlitBen Sep 22, 2015 3:51 am

One advantage iOS Maps purportedly has is its granular routing from transit station exits. And it does - but only for a limited set of city transport systems. But the same exits with identifiers are already in Google Maps, so the usual workaround to drop pins on them to start routes still works almost as well. I wish Google's devs would streamline things so we don't have to do the extra step or two...

ou81two Sep 24, 2015 10:23 am

It's an unfortunate problem in technology. These high paid programmers have to do something and unfortunately, few people have caught on to the it's not broken don't fix it idea.

Either it was bad to start with so hold who built it accountable or leave it alone.

FlitBen Sep 24, 2015 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by ou81two (Post 25472548)
It's an unfortunate problem in technology. These high paid programmers have to do something and unfortunately, few people have caught on to the it's not broken don't fix it idea.

Either it was bad to start with so hold who built it accountable or leave it alone.

if so then their pay should be weighed on customer satisfaction scores as well as product design and delivery.


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