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SylviaCaras Mar 29, 2013 11:06 am

Gmail has an 'improvement' but ...
 
Gmail has gone and improved itself - selecting reply to a message opens a small box with less options ... I think they are testing on phones and tablets ... But I am reading on a desktop and would prefer the old way. However, ...

Selecting reply does not now quote the incoming message - I like to quote the message I received and interline my replies (and I do edit out the unnecessary). I can't figure out how to choose quoting as an option when I chose reply. Surely somewhere there is a setting. Ideas? A better place to look for an answer than the experts here?

I didn't see anything on the Gmail forum I looked at, and I have switched back to the old way; I don't see anyplace to give any input.

I'm glad this forum is here!

Sylvia

gfunkdave Mar 29, 2013 12:33 pm

The new look has been out for a while now - apparently they finally made people switch.

All replies are still quoted. It just doesn't show by default, but it's there. To see the trimmed content, click the three small dots at the bottom of the reply text input field.

All the former options are still there, too - click the underlined A by the Send button for formatting options, or hover your mouse over the paper clip or plus signs for more insertion options - links, pictures, etc.

SylviaCaras Mar 29, 2013 1:04 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 20504159)

All replies are still quoted. It just doesn't show by default, but it's there. To see the trimmed content, click the three small dots at the bottom of the reply text input field.

Thank you! I did see the other options, didn't find that one. I keep refusing the improvements - most of them, like this one, require twice as many clicks to accomplish my tasks ... .

Sylvia

cblaisd Mar 29, 2013 2:50 pm

And if you only want to quote part of the original email in your reply, highlight the text you want to quote and then press "reply"

gfunkdave Mar 30, 2013 8:27 am


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 20504803)
And if you only want to quote part of the original email in your reply, highlight the text you want to quote and then press "reply"

Whoa, I didn't know that. Nifty!

LIH Prem Mar 30, 2013 8:33 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 20507538)
Whoa, I didn't know that. Nifty!

works in t-bird also. Doesn't that work in most mail apps?

-David

weekilter Mar 30, 2013 10:20 am


Originally Posted by LIH Prem (Post 20507555)
works in t-bird also. Doesn't that work in most mail apps?

-David

Not by default I believe (in regard to specific quoting.)

SylviaCaras Mar 30, 2013 11:34 am

highlighting, partial quoting, ...
 
That used to work in Gmail; it doesn't for me in the improved Gmail, though I do now see the ... in the corner - very faint - I overlooked them - hovering over ... does display words about quoting text. Hmm, maybe highlighting some, pressing reply, press those three dots ... nope that doesn't work ...

Sylvia

el344 Mar 30, 2013 5:45 pm

Quote selected text is an option you have to turn on in labs.

Himeno Mar 31, 2013 6:02 am


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 20504159)
The new look has been out for a while now - apparently they finally made people switch.

This isn't about the 'new look'. That was rolled and forced on people a year ago. This is about the new "compose" which very few people even knew anything about until 2 days ago when the change was forced on them with no notice or warning.


I didn't see anything on the Gmail forum I looked at, and I have switched back to the old way; I don't see anyplace to give any input.
Try http://productforums.google.com/foru...nding-messages. Not that google will listen to anyone and it's full of condescending TCs telling everyone to shut up and do what google wants.:td:

cblaisd Mar 31, 2013 6:06 am


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 20511342)
...This is about the new "compose" which very few people even knew anything about until 2 days ago when the change was forced on them with no notice or warning.

At least for the moment, there's a rollback:

How to Switch Back to Old Gmail Compose (Temporarily)

I'm confident that one of the gmail extension providers (like Gmelius) will offer a more permanent solution soon.

Himeno Mar 31, 2013 6:28 am


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 20511352)
At least for the moment, there's a rollback:

How to Switch Back to Old Gmail Compose (Temporarily)

I worked that out quite quickly once it was forced on me on Friday. Then when using the gmail "support" forum, all I get told is how to do something I've already done and lies about how everyone knew about it last October.


I'm confident that one of the gmail extension providers (like Gmelius) will offer a more permanent solution soon.
I sure hope so, otherwise I will need to find some other email provider. Which is difficult as one of my 'jobs' uses google apps...

SylviaCaras Mar 31, 2013 9:12 am


Originally Posted by el344 (Post 20509524)
Quote selected text is an option you have to turn on in labs.

That works too in the new compose. Thanks for the reminder.

gfunkdave Mar 31, 2013 10:57 am


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 20511342)
This isn't about the 'new look'. That was rolled and forced on people a year ago. This is about the new "compose" which very few people even knew anything about until 2 days ago when the change was forced on them with no notice or warning.

Try http://productforums.google.com/foru...nding-messages. Not that google will listen to anyone and it's full of condescending TCs telling everyone to shut up and do what google wants.:td:

Yes, that's what I meant. I've been using the new compose for quite some time. It's fine.

Ahem.

http://theoatmeal.com/pl/state_web_w...acebook_layout

Himeno Mar 31, 2013 4:42 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 20512358)
Yes, that's what I meant. I've been using the new compose for quite some time. It's fine.

In what way is a small window tucked away in the wrong corner of the screen with reduced functionality, less productive and time wasting "fine"?

cblaisd Mar 31, 2013 6:12 pm

Gmail has an 'improvement' but ...
 
Indeed. +1!

gfunkdave Mar 31, 2013 6:27 pm


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 20513697)
In what way is a small window tucked away in the wrong corner of the screen with reduced functionality, less productive and time wasting "fine"?

I really don't understand the problem. It's the same functionality. Why do you say it's "less productive" or "time wasting"? Because you have to spend half a second clicking an extra button?

A service that you pay nothing for, but for which most people would pay a significant amount, changes its UI slightly. Big deal. If you don't like it, check out Office 365.

Boogie711 Apr 1, 2013 12:47 pm

Chalk me up as one of the folks that LIKES the new compose window. Sorry to rain on your complaint-parade, but it's nicer and easier for me to keep everything on one screen.

ninerfan Apr 4, 2013 4:30 pm

I don't really like it but I am not going to waste my time worrying about it. I am sure I'll get used to it quick enough.
Life is too short to drink cheap beer,or something like that.;)

piper28 Apr 4, 2013 6:12 pm

I don't particularly like the new compose window myself, but I will say there's one thing about it I find nice. Being able to actually see another email in the window behind it can be real useful. I type enough emails that I need to reference an email that I'm not forwarding or replying to, it's made that a little easier.

Himeno Apr 5, 2013 4:51 am


Originally Posted by piper28 (Post 20538156)
I don't particularly like the new compose window myself, but I will say there's one thing about it I find nice. Being able to actually see another email in the window behind it can be real useful. I type enough emails that I need to reference an email that I'm not forwarding or replying to, it's made that a little easier.

Which you could easily do before. You can't even seen half the email with the new compose box. The box blocks off half the email.

piper28 Apr 5, 2013 9:35 am


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 20539991)
Which you could easily do before. You can't even seen half the email with the new compose box. The box blocks off half the email.

You could see an email that you were replying to or forwarding, but could you see an arbitrary one when you were just doing a new compose? I have to admit, I never really spent a lot of time looking for a way to do it. And the screen I do most of my work on is large enough that the new method lets me see enough of what's behind it that it generally works for me.

I don't necessarily really like gmail in the first place, but it integrates so well with my phone, I put up with using the browser based version.

gfunkdave Apr 5, 2013 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by piper28 (Post 20541297)
You could see an email that you were replying to or forwarding, but could you see an arbitrary one when you were just doing a new compose? I have to admit, I never really spent a lot of time looking for a way to do it. And the screen I do most of my work on is large enough that the new method lets me see enough of what's behind it that it generally works for me.

I don't necessarily really like gmail in the first place, but it integrates so well with my phone, I put up with using the browser based version.

You've always been able (and still are) to pop a new message out of the main browser window and into its own net window.

moondog Aug 14, 2013 10:54 pm

I really don't like this new "feature". I switched back to the old style in March, but yesterday, I found this was no longer possible. I use gmail on my computer, not on my phone or a tablet.

elCheapoDeluxe Aug 15, 2013 8:44 am

I don't like it as much as the old version, but I don't see it causing any major headache. I will say that today must be the first time I even tried to reply to something because it popped up a little tutorial showing the dots and how to change the reply/reply all/forward setting. Everything that comes into my gmail account is coming from a computer (receipts, statements, spam) so I've never bothered before. Fortunately, my primary account is Office 365.

cblaisd Aug 15, 2013 11:21 pm

I've switched back to the basic html version.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox

Very frustrating when they "improve" what needed no improvement simply for the sake of being new.


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