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skofarrell Feb 26, 2013 6:05 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20320764)
And the Ativ Pro, Vivobook and other products.

With all that money I wasted on multiple laptops, I could have purchased one Macbook instead :p

^^^ :D

Internaut Feb 27, 2013 9:14 am


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20320764)
With all that money I wasted on multiple laptops, I could have purchased one Macbook instead :p

And rest assured it would have been all you'd need :D.

SeriouslyLost Feb 27, 2013 9:21 am


Originally Posted by McG (Post 20298394)
Will the Chromebook Pixel run Adobe Lightroom and CS6? My Macbook Air can.

The answer to that would be 'yes', it can. Like everything else it's expected to run, it would use the remote version... sorry, "cloud" version (gotta stay up to date with The Kids!) that anyone can run.

ScottC Feb 27, 2013 9:46 am


Originally Posted by Internaut (Post 20326480)
And rest assured it would have been all you'd need :D.

I actually have a Macbook (purchased it just for Final Cut Pro) and I hate both it, and Final Cut Pro. Total piece of crap software. Windows Movie Maker crashes less than FCP.

MetricFlyer Feb 28, 2013 3:31 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20326678)
I actually have a Macbook (purchased it just for Final Cut Pro) and I hate both it, and Final Cut Pro. Total piece of crap software. Windows Movie Maker crashes less than FCP.

That's exactly my experience... I just didn't have your guts for saying
it out loud like that. Bravo! :) Anytime I say anything remotely bad
about Apple products, my friends/co-workers make me feel like two
inches tall.

ScottC Feb 28, 2013 6:17 pm

Got my Pixel today. Fanboism aside - this is the prettiest laptop I have ever seen. Totally insane in every single detail. The display is just plain crazy.

All that wonderful hardware, all just for Chrome :D

nmenaker Mar 1, 2013 10:00 am

Adding gestures is a no brainer, but honestly I don't think I would ever use a touchscreen laptop. A Hybrid maybe, or fold over, but not reaching out to the screen..

http://www.zdnet.com/chromebook-pixe...om-7000011971/

ScottC Mar 1, 2013 10:42 am


Originally Posted by nmenaker (Post 20340115)
Adding gestures is a no brainer, but honestly I don't think I would ever use a touchscreen laptop. A Hybrid maybe, or fold over, but not reaching out to the screen..

http://www.zdnet.com/chromebook-pixe...om-7000011971/

I'm of the opinion that we'll see the option to run Android apps on ChromeOS announced at Google I/O. This will all make sense sooner or later.

mooper Mar 1, 2013 11:28 am


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20336422)
Got my Pixel today. Fanboism aside - this is the prettiest laptop I have ever seen. Totally insane in every single detail. The display is just plain crazy.

Nicer than a MacBook Air?!


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20340393)
I'm of the opinion that we'll see the option to run Android apps on ChromeOS announced at Google I/O. This will all make sense sooner or later.

Ditto.

ScottC Mar 1, 2013 1:36 pm


Originally Posted by mooper (Post 20340654)
Nicer than a MacBook Air?!

Oh yes. Everything about it is just insanely well detailed. Unlike any piece of hardware I've ever seen - including the new Retina Macbooks. The "timescape" demo app installed on it shows what the display can do.

MetricFlyer Mar 1, 2013 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by mooper (Post 20340654)
Nicer than a MacBook Air?!



.

The Pixel is much nicer than the MBA. (at lease the hardware)

skofarrell Mar 1, 2013 5:49 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20336422)
Got my Pixel today. Fanboism aside - this is the prettiest laptop I have ever seen. Totally insane in every single detail. The display is just plain crazy.

All that wonderful hardware, all just for Chrome :D

I'm waiting for the 2 week mark when you'll report back that you hate it and its going on to "the pile". ;)

ScottC Mar 1, 2013 5:57 pm


Originally Posted by skofarrell (Post 20342860)
I'm waiting for the 2 week mark when you'll report back that you hate it and its going on to "the pile". ;)

Doubt it - I've been using a Chromebook for ages, so unless they reveal the Chromebook Ultra Pixel 2000+, I'm sticking with this. And FWIW; the THREE years of 1TB Google Drive alone make it worth it ($50/month normally). Amazing deal.

ScottC Mar 1, 2013 6:10 pm

Also, you know what if funny - hunting down all the tech blogs that called the leaked video of the Chromebook Pixel "a hoax" and reading their justification for calling it out.

MetricFlyer Mar 1, 2013 8:11 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20342891)
Doubt it - I've been using a Chromebook for ages, so unless they reveal the Chromebook Ultra Pixel 2000+, I'm sticking with this. And FWIW; the THREE years of 1TB Google Drive alone make it worth it ($50/month normally). Amazing deal.

I have also been using Chromebook for about two years.

My first one was the free CR-48 that Google gave me. I used it more often than my Windows laptop and Apple iPad2. A few months ago, I also bought the Samsung Chromebook laptop.

Unfortunately, the Pixel is not a good deal for me because I don't need free 1TB of cloud storage or the 4G LTE. (especially since I still have unlimited data plan on Verizon 4G LTE grandfathered in at $22.97 per month)

cordelli Mar 1, 2013 8:46 pm


Originally Posted by skofarrell (Post 20342860)
I'm waiting for the 2 week mark when you'll report back that you hate it and its going on to "the pile". ;)


Funny, earlier today I reread the Surface RT thread thinking the same thing.

ScottC Mar 1, 2013 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by cordelli (Post 20343574)
Funny, earlier today I reread the Surface RT thread thinking the same thing.

The difference was the Surface RT was a totally new device and OS to me - whereas the Pixel is just continuing where I left off with my Samsung S7 (and other Chromebooks before that). Most of what I do is in Chrome, and Chromebooks (and several Chromeboxes) fulfill most of my needs.

Of course, there are still plenty of limitations, and Google will need to work hard to make ChromeOS a viable alternative to my day to day laptop.

lensman Mar 1, 2013 9:12 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20343624)
Of course, there are still plenty of limitations, and Google will need to work hard to make ChromeOS a viable alternative to my day to day laptop.

Scott,

You had me halfway convinced to get one of these for myself until I read this. You have your day to day laptop and I have my day to day laptop.

1. What keeps this from being your day to day laptop?
2. What situations will you use the Pixel instead of your day-to-day laptop?
3. How is 1TB of Google Drive valuable to you? Isn't it much more than you need?

I suspect that your answers to these questions would be my answers to these questions and thus are key to my decision to get one of these.

skofarrell Mar 2, 2013 6:54 am


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20342940)
Doubt it - I've been using a Chromebook for ages, so unless they reveal the Chromebook Ultra Pixel 2000+, I'm sticking with this. And FWIW; the THREE years of 1TB Google Drive alone make it worth it ($50/month normally). Amazing deal.

I'm just teasing.

I've got a chromebook downstairs, and I like it. We use it as our day to day kitchen machine. I just wish the Pixel was cheaper.

I don't need the google drive space, and can't justify the Macbook-esque pricing.

ScottC Mar 2, 2013 7:10 am


Originally Posted by lensman (Post 20343677)
Scott,

You had me halfway convinced to get one of these for myself until I read this. You have your day to day laptop and I have my day to day laptop.

1. What keeps this from being your day to day laptop?

The same thing that makes a lot of people not even consider Chrome - there are always one or two apps that are not available for Chrome. For me, basic video editing is the main one, along with better photo management. That said, I do need to look into the editing options on the Pixel, as they have now included a photo editing suite, we'll see if it works. Then there are hardware dependent apps like for my Livescribe pen.


2. What situations will you use the Pixel instead of your day-to-day laptop?
When I know I'm not going to be doing any media creation or editing.


3. How is 1TB of Google Drive valuable to you? Isn't it much more than you need?
I've started adding more and more of my files to Google Drive. I started with the 5GB and filled it up quickly, then moved on to a 100GB plan, and now I'm adding even more. I love the ease of access, and IMHO it beats out things like Dropbox. Next step is to configure the sync software I use to sync my NAS to offload some of the most important stuff to Google Drive. I also use it for work to store important files and have Google Office Bridge installed to send all my Microsoft Office files to Google Drive. I'm sure it'll take a long time to fill 1TB, but at least I have the space.

lensman Mar 2, 2013 9:12 am


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20345223)
there are always one or two apps that are not available for Chrome
...
When I know I'm not going to be doing any media creation or editing.

Interesting. I think in my case the app is my company's VPN/remote desktop solution that only works on Windows. I have to admit that I only thought of this when you mentioned the above, so thanks.

How is ChromeOS for offline video viewing? When I travel I always load up my MacBook with mkvs because this is the native/preferred format for my video library.


I've started adding more and more of my files to Google Drive. I started with the 5GB and filled it up quickly, then moved on to a 100GB plan, and now I'm adding even more. I love the ease of access, and IMHO it beats out things like Dropbox. Next step is to configure the sync software I use to sync my NAS to offload some of the most important stuff to Google Drive. I also use it for work to store important files and have Google Office Bridge installed to send all my Microsoft Office files to Google Drive. I'm sure it'll take a long time to fill 1TB, but at least I have the space.
That makes sense. So I've signed up for what IMHO is a somewhat dodgy unlimited cloud storage solution and I have a couple of complaints:
1. Upload speeds are a bit slow. Can you get 100mbit uploads through Google Drive? I'd hope that Google drive would have industry leading connectivity.
2. Subtitles aren't supported in video streaming so I have to download foreign language videos.
3. I don't have control over video streaming bitrate and I think they too aggressively compress the video stream.

MetricFlyer Mar 2, 2013 10:11 am


Originally Posted by skofarrell (Post 20345159)
I'm just teasing.

I've got a chromebook downstairs, and I like it. We use it as our day to day kitchen machine. I just wish the Pixel was cheaper.

I don't need the google drive space, and can't justify the Macbook-esque pricing.

I think Google built the Pixel and spared no expense because they want to show the world that Chromebooks can be "sexy" and not just cheap low-end laptops.(or cheap alternatives to Windows laptops / Macbooks)

ScottC Mar 2, 2013 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by MetricFlyer (Post 20346184)
I think Google built the Pixel and spared no expense because they want to show the world that Chromebooks can be "sexy" and not just cheap low-end laptops.(or cheap alternatives to Windows laptops / Macbooks)

That sounds about right. It is pretty obvious that the machine is way, way too much hardware for ChromeOS.

Internaut Mar 2, 2013 3:22 pm

Well, it seems awfully over the top for what amounts to a great tool for a bit of writing (and spread sheeting) in the cloud + surfing. I still plan on getting the latest Samsung model for just that. Anything more expensive and I'd expect more function on the device. Also, I've been using Google Docs of late. The word processor is great for simple writing but poor for complex reports. The time for excuses has come and gone!

MetricFlyer Mar 2, 2013 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20346894)
That sounds about right. It is pretty obvious that the machine is way, way too much hardware for ChromeOS.

Do you know who actually assembled the Pixel for Google? :)

Thanks!

ScottC Mar 2, 2013 4:18 pm


Originally Posted by MetricFlyer (Post 20347738)
Do you know who actually assembled the Pixel for Google? :)

Thanks!

Yes, it was apparently designed and spec'd entirely in-house and built Compal.

mooper Mar 2, 2013 5:23 pm


Originally Posted by Internaut (Post 20347733)
Well, it seems awfully over the top for what amounts to a great tool for a bit of writing (and spread sheeting) in the cloud + surfing. I still plan on getting the latest Samsung model for just that. Anything more expensive and I'd expect more function on the device. Also, I've been using Google Docs of late. The word processor is great for simple writing but poor for complex reports. The time for excuses has come and gone!

There are a plethora of apps that can do a lot more than that, and well. If they merge Chrome OS and Android, that will become the case even more so.

aschuett Mar 2, 2013 5:35 pm


Originally Posted by MetricFlyer (Post 20299260)
3:2 is the aspect ratio of 35mm film.... combined with a super high screen resolution,
perhaps Google wants the Pixel to be used as a professional photoshop tool?

Seems like they are heading towards using it more for photos, but I doubt the decision was made to have it replace Photoshop. After all, it was just this week that Chrome OS got exFat support for memory cards >32GB. I'll stick with my cheap disposable Chromebook, thank you.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/10013223...ts/VPu9m4wbm2c

skofarrell Mar 2, 2013 9:00 pm


Originally Posted by mooper (Post 20348313)
There are a plethora of apps that can do a lot more than that, and well. If they merge Chrome OS and Android, that will become the case even more so.

Why would they need hardware specs like the Pixel's to run Android apps? Touchscreen I get, but retina graphics and dual core i5?

mooper Mar 3, 2013 12:32 am


Originally Posted by skofarrell (Post 20349212)
Why would they need hardware specs like the Pixel's to run Android apps? Touchscreen I get, but retina graphics and dual core i5?

They aren't needed; they just open the possibility of more intensive functions being more usable.

Internaut Mar 3, 2013 3:44 am


Originally Posted by mooper (Post 20348313)
There are a plethora of apps that can do a lot more than that, and well. If they merge Chrome OS and Android, that will become the case even more so.

Well, I use Quick Office Pro HD on my Nexus. It's considered one of the best for Android. I consider it pretty dire! Looking what Microsoft have achieved with it's web based Office Apps in Sky Drive, what I expect of Google Docs is doable. If it's an architectural issue, I guess Google had better get re-architecting!

skofarrell Mar 3, 2013 10:38 am


Originally Posted by mooper (Post 20349741)
They aren't needed; they just open the possibility of more intensive functions being more usable.

So the only chrome device that will run android apps will be the pixel? Doubt it.

I don't think the two are connected. If Chrome gets an android emulator, you can't ask the public to pay $1200 for the "right". Besides, what android app is aching to be run on a laptop? Internaut is right, phone/tablet apps pale compared to their laptop brethren....its all about compromise for the smaller screen, lack of keyboard, etc.

mooper Mar 3, 2013 12:56 pm


Originally Posted by skofarrell (Post 20351807)
So the only chrome device that will run android apps will be the pixel? Doubt it.

That's not what I meant. I meant that new apps that run much better when used with high-end hardware like the Pixel might be developed/expanded to take advantage of the capabilities. For example, the lack of good video editing that was mentioned upthread could be addressed by new apps that are very usable on the Pixel but would be cumbersome on the low-end Chomebooks (albeit still would work).

ScottC Mar 20, 2013 8:34 pm

Took the Pixel on a several trips over the past two weeks, and still loving it. Using it more than any of my Windows 8 laptops.

skofarrell Mar 20, 2013 9:26 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20455435)
Took the Pixel on a several trips over the past two weeks, and still loving it. Using it more than any of my Windows 8 laptops.

Same thing with my 9.7" iPad for 1/3 less in price, 1/2 less in weight, and twice the battery life. :p

cblaisd Mar 20, 2013 9:33 pm

Mmmm......

http://www.diabetesmine.com/wp-conte...05/popcorn.jpg

While I don't have the Pixel, I did get a great deal on a Samsung Chromebook and am pretty impressed. I've tried taking only my iPad but I just have to have a keyboard and mouse.

mooper Mar 20, 2013 11:36 pm


Originally Posted by skofarrell (Post 20455624)
Same thing with my 9.7" iPad for 1/3 less in price, 1/2 less in weight, and twice the battery life. :p

I hope you don't type much! I can't rely upon any tablet if I have to be productive on a trip, as the typing - even with modified keyboard apps - is simply too cumbersome. My Chromebook is now my go-to travel device.

nmenaker Mar 21, 2013 7:38 am

nobody
 

Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20455435)
Took the Pixel on a several trips over the past two weeks, and still loving it. Using it more than any of my Windows 8 laptops.

nobody is surprised ScottC ;-):D

ScottC Mar 21, 2013 7:42 am


Originally Posted by skofarrell (Post 20455624)
Same thing with my 9.7" iPad for 1/3 less in price, 1/2 less in weight, and twice the battery life. :p

1/3 less in price? Really? My 64GB Verizon iPad begs to differ.

If you are going to troll, I could fire back with the Acer Chromebook C7 - which is HALF of what an iPad costs!

lensman Mar 21, 2013 6:17 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 20455435)
Took the Pixel on a several trips over the past two weeks, and still loving it. Using it more than any of my Windows 8 laptops.

Did you take the laptops with you on the trip but used the Pixel more or did you decide to take the Pixel instead of the laptops? [If you know Scott you know this is a reasonable question]

Did you miss the Windows 8 laptop at any point in time on these trips? Why?

Did you appreciate that you had the Pixel instead of your Windows laptop at any point in time on these trips? Why?

You almost have me convinced to take a look at getting one of these to get the Google Drive space and a sleek machine for browsing.


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