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802.11n router & 3rd party firmware

Old Dec 26, 11, 11:24 am
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802.11n router & 3rd party firmware

Hi all,

I'm wondering if anyone has bought an N router recently and installed third party firmware on it. Ideally I'd like to run Tomato or a derivative, but I suppose DD-WRT could work too.

Which router do you have? I like the idea of a dual-band, dual-radio one but virtually all my devices only support 2.4GHz anyway.

I had been thinking of the Linksys E3000 or a couple of Asus models. What has worked for you?

As for firmware, as I said, I'd prefer Tomato to DD-WRT. But really, the main functionalities I'm looking for are key-based auth for the SSH daemon and reliability. My 4-5 year old WRT54GL is just now starting to die.
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Old Dec 26, 11, 2:18 pm
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I have an Asus RT-N13U running DD-WRT and I love it.

I used to run Tomato, but prefer the PPPoE authentication on DD.

My DSL provider sends out a modem/router/AP combo box that throttles my connection, but I have disabled the authentication on that so it is just a dumb pass-through an doesn't slow me down.

The Asus is rock solid and speedy. Highly recommended. Try for a B1 rev model.

I have a Netgear WR3500L with DD installed... also no issues. It was retired in favor of the Asus - PM me if you want it cheap.
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Old Dec 26, 11, 2:19 pm
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I should add neither of these are dual band - I just don't need it...
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Also, from slickdeals.net, a $50 Tomato / DD-WRT compatible dual-band model from Cisco...

http://m.slickdeals.net/f/3756868-Cisco-Linksys-E3000-Simultaneous-2-4-5GHz-Dual-Band-Wireless-N-Router-w-4x-Gigabit-Ports-USB-Port-DD-WRT-Tomato-Compatible-refurbished-49-99-with-free-shipping
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Old Dec 26, 11, 4:47 pm
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Hey thanks! I ordered the E3000...I figure, for $50 I might as well get dual band, even though I think only one of my devices can use it.
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Asus RTN-16 or E3000. Both high on recommendations at tomatousb.org
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Old Jan 1, 12, 11:12 am
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Asus RTN-16 or E3000. Both high on recommendations at tomatousb.org
Yeah, thanks - I got the E3000. It works well, though it runs really hot.
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Yeah, thanks - I got the E3000. It works well, though it runs really hot.
So I heard. I got the RTN-16.
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave View Post
Yeah, thanks - I got the E3000. It works well, though it runs really hot.
I've got the E3000 and I use DD-WRT. My main reason for going for DD-WRT is that I've been using it for years. Call me a curmudgeon, but I ain't changing.
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I've got the E3000 and I use DD-WRT. My main reason for going for DD-WRT is that I've been using it for years. Call me a curmudgeon, but I ain't changing.
DD-WRT always seems very persnickety to me, while Tomato just works. I don't even really use QoS, which is what Tomato was originally known for.
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They both pretty much just work. I run tomato and dd-wrt for different routers at different locations. QOS, PPPoE, etc., all work fine. For the most part I prefer tomato, but it really isn't in a good engineering/upgrade place at the moment, so if you want it to continue to evolve I would stick with DD-WRT.
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Old Jan 5, 12, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave View Post
DD-WRT always seems very persnickety to me, while Tomato just works. I don't even really use QoS, which is what Tomato was originally known for.
I haven't used Tomato, so I have no basis of comparison. I'm not sure, though, what you mean about dd-wrt being pernickety. I've used it on several routers and it has been rock-solid -- far more so than the firmware that came with the router. dd-wrt is also supports a lot more different routers, and comes in a variety of flavors. There's no reason I'm aware of not to use it.
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Old Jan 5, 12, 12:07 pm
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They both pretty much just work. I run tomato and dd-wrt for different routers at different locations. QOS, PPPoE, etc., all work fine. For the most part I prefer tomato, but it really isn't in a good engineering/upgrade place at the moment, so if you want it to continue to evolve I would stick with DD-WRT.
Curious what you mean by Tomato not being in a good engineering/upgrade place at the moment. I know the base Tomato hasn't been updated in a year or two, but TomatoUSB is being actively developed by a few people. I use Toastman's build.

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I haven't used Tomato, so I have no basis of comparison. I'm not sure, though, what you mean about dd-wrt being pernickety. I've used it on several routers and it has been rock-solid -- far more so than the firmware that came with the router. dd-wrt is also supports a lot more different routers, and comes in a variety of flavors. There's no reason I'm aware of not to use it.
Persnickety was the wrong word. When I've tried DD-WRT in the past, it seemed a little kludgey. For example, I remember it rebooting the router every time I changed any setting. Changing the same setting in Tomato just restarts the appropriate service. It also felt less user friendly.

Perhaps I'll have to try DD-WRT again. Though, Tomato is running on my E3000 just fine. (But I would like to know how to force it to maintain a 300 Mbps connection in 2.4 GHz...)

And yes, PTravel, I seem to remember being the one to recommend you use DD-WRT on that old router you found lying around, so I'm aware of the irony here.
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave View Post
Persnickety was the wrong word. When I've tried DD-WRT in the past, it seemed a little kludgey. For example, I remember it rebooting the router every time I changed any setting. Changing the same setting in Tomato just restarts the appropriate service. It also felt less user friendly.
I've never experienced the reboot issue that you've described. I agree it's not user friendly in the sense that you need to know a bit about what a router does and the documentation is less than complete. However, that's also the trade-off for having extremely complete control over all router functions.

Perhaps I'll have to try DD-WRT again. Though, Tomato is running on my E3000 just fine. (But I would like to know how to force it to maintain a 300 Mbps connection in 2.4 GHz...)
I have dd-wrt running on an E3200 -- it's been up for a couple of months with no real problems at all and, best of all, it gives me rock-solid and reliable VPN (which is what got me interested in dd-wrt in the first place).

And yes, PTravel, I seem to remember being the one to recommend you use DD-WRT on that old router you found lying around, so I'm aware of the irony here.
Ah, yes -- that was, indeed, you. And I thank you for the recommendation -- it's worked out brilliantly.
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave View Post
DD-WRT always seems very persnickety to me, while Tomato just works. I don't even really use QoS, which is what Tomato was originally known for.
QoS is nearly useless. Unless the ISP classifies return traffic (they won't) it doesn't do much of any good.
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