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stimpy Jul 30, 2011 12:58 pm

Google Music
 
First Pandora, then Spotify, now Google Music. Things are moving too fast!

Oh well, I'm in the process of uploading over 1000 songs into my Google Music account. Google might as well run all phases of my life now.

cordelli Jul 30, 2011 1:34 pm

More of the drug dealer mentality

Music Beta is available free for a limited time.



Get um hooked, and get their credit cards.

Lincoln Jul 30, 2011 4:08 pm

Gives me a headache keeping track of all the new services. I think that's why iCloud may be a breath of fresh air, keeping my music in the cloud for easy access anywhere I go. At least that's the idea...

Upstate Jul 30, 2011 5:22 pm


Originally Posted by Lincoln (Post 16828835)
Gives me a headache keeping track of all the new services. I think that's why iCloud may be a breath of fresh air, keeping my music in the cloud for easy access anywhere I go. At least that's the idea...

That is no different that what Google Music does

SRQ Guy Jul 30, 2011 6:53 pm

All Your Music are Belong to Us. :D

nmenaker Jul 31, 2011 9:26 am

might be trouble
 

Originally Posted by Upstate (Post 16829106)
That is no different that what Google Music does

iClouds syncing and not STREAMING behaviour might prove to be annoying though, still undecided. I definitely think some sort of streaming solution needs to be enabled.

stimpy Jul 31, 2011 9:45 am

Doesn't Google Music stream to Android devices?

Hopefully soon to iPhones.

thelostshark Jul 31, 2011 11:49 am

If I move to a non-apple device, what do I do with all the music I bought from Itunes; can I get it to google/android/the rest of the world? tls

Internaut Aug 1, 2011 5:48 am

Oh look, a new and innovative product from the Google chocolate factory. It must be new and innovative because Google made it. Oh, hang on a minute, they're just trying to muscle into another market by copying someone else's product again........

ScottC Aug 1, 2011 10:47 am


Originally Posted by Internaut (Post 16836027)
Oh look, a new and innovative product from the Google chocolate factory. It must be new and innovative because Google made it. Oh, hang on a minute, they're just trying to muscle into another market by copying someone else's product again........

What are they copying? I've used a lot of music sync/stream services, but none have a dedicated Honeycomb app, on-demand playlist generation and a decent web based player.

I find that is *IS* highly innovative, and that there isn't anything similar on the market.

Internaut Aug 1, 2011 12:22 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 16837558)
What are they copying? I've used a lot of music sync/stream services, but none have a dedicated Honeycomb app, on-demand playlist generation and a decent web based player.

I find that is *IS* highly innovative, and that there isn't anything similar on the market.

True, but unless Google can get their act together with the music industry, isn't the usefulness of such an app going to be limited?

stimpy Aug 1, 2011 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by Internaut (Post 16838245)
True, but unless Google can get their act together with the music industry, isn't the usefulness of such an app going to be limited?

Perspectives are an interesting thing. I should think it is the job of the music industry to get their act together, or effectively re-invent their business, to better work with the plans of the likes of Google.

nerd Aug 1, 2011 1:23 pm


Originally Posted by Internaut (Post 16838245)
True, but unless Google can get their act together with the music industry, isn't the usefulness of such an app going to be limited?

How does this app require interaction with the music industry? You're not buying music from Google, are you?

I don't have access to it yet, and stand to be corrected, as always. :)

Internaut Aug 1, 2011 1:35 pm


Originally Posted by nerd (Post 16838666)
How does this app require interaction with the music industry? You're not buying music from Google, are you?

I don't have access to it yet, and stand to be corrected, as always. :)

Indeed. I'm not so sure the music industry will be happy with people copying their music to Google's cloud though.....

Internaut Aug 1, 2011 1:39 pm


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 16838336)
Perspectives are an interesting thing. I should think it is the job of the music industry to get their act together, or effectively re-invent their business, to better work with the plans of the likes of Google.

There's lots the music industry should be doing from the perspective of Me the consumer. For example, I'd like my personal license for a tune to cover me for copying and playing from a variety of devices I own. I don't see this happening anytime soon though. Apple's model works very well but is proprietary.

nerd Aug 1, 2011 2:49 pm


Originally Posted by Internaut (Post 16838753)
Indeed. I'm not so sure the music industry will be happy with people copying their music to Google's cloud though.....

Copyright laws say you're allowed to make a backup, right? (Despite the slimy music industry's past $100,000 fine per song, per incidence former legal threats against such laws?

Internaut Aug 1, 2011 2:58 pm


Originally Posted by nerd (Post 16839239)
Copyright laws say you're allowed to make a backup, right? (Despite the slimy music industry's past $100,000 fine per song, per incidence former legal threats against such laws?

Well that comes under the heading of which copyright law and where...... Here in the UK, for example, I don't think it's strictly legal to create a backup copy of installation medium or original music CDs anymore (though everyone knows that pretty much everyone copies their CDs to iTunes (or equivalent) and then copies onto iPod (or equivalent) these days. And for anything protected by encryption, we now have legal provisions similar to DMCA (i.e. it is illegal to try and circumvent a copy protection mechanism, regardless of how poor that mechanism is).

One of the reasons I still have a soft spot for the CD is that there's no copy protection and therefore no technical limits on how I, as a consumer can use the content.

ScottC Aug 1, 2011 3:26 pm


Originally Posted by Internaut (Post 16838245)
True, but unless Google can get their act together with the music industry, isn't the usefulness of such an app going to be limited?

Google is too big to launch this without knowing for sure that they'll be able to keep it going. Sooner or later, Google will have a music store, and I doubt the music industry will want to throw away all that extra income.

stimpy Aug 1, 2011 3:28 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 16839475)
Google is too big to launch this without knowing for sure that they'll be able to keep it going. Sooner or later, Google will have a music store, and I doubt the music industry will want to throw away all that extra income.

Right you are. And next will be Google Films.

What do you call a trillion terabytes of storage?

pdxer Aug 1, 2011 3:32 pm


Originally Posted by thelostshark (Post 16832289)
If I move to a non-apple device, what do I do with all the music I bought from Itunes; can I get it to google/android/the rest of the world? tls

anything you want. you own it and there's no copy protection.

DownTheRappitHole Aug 1, 2011 3:33 pm

Decent service that's better than Amazon's streaming at the moment. For obvious reasons being able to interact better with other Google services would be nice but I'm sure the Record Label geniuses would crap their remaining brains out if that happened


Originally Posted by pdxer (Post 16839515)
anything you want. you own it and there's no copy protection.

Except for all of the music you bought on iTunes when there was copy protection :rolleyes:

pdxer Aug 1, 2011 5:09 pm


Originally Posted by DownTheRappitHole (Post 16839521)
Except for all of the music you bought on iTunes when there was copy protection :rolleyes:

you can upgrade it to the non-copyprotected version, which is also a higher quality too.

Curious_George Aug 1, 2011 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by pdxer (Post 16840025)
you can upgrade it to the non-copyprotected version, which is also a higher quality too.

At an additional cost.

I've been an Apple guy since the Apple IIc, though I don't purchase any music from iTunes. I use Amazon's MP3 store for popular artists, or purchase from the artists or independent record labels own MP3 stores for stuff not on Amazon.


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