QUERY

I have a question for the TSO forum members here regarding acceptable IDs at checkpoints. I remembered seeing on a previous thread that driver's licenses were acceptable IDs provided they had not been expired more than a year. How about other forms of acceptable IDs. For example, military IDs. Would they be acceptable as well provided they had not been expired more than a year?

thegeneral

Why would you be carrying expired ID? You can't even get into a bar with an expired id.

Boggie Dog

Seems the expiration date on a Motor Vehicle Operators Permit only applies to the legal right to operate a motor vehicle.

Since the Operators Permit seems to be the ID of choice for TSA why does the date really matter, the traveler doesn't want to operate the aircraft?

If the picture represents the holder what else is needed?

Oh, how does showing ID to TSA improve security anyhow?

bdschobel

I thought that TSA would adamantly reject any ID that is expired, even if it expired on the very day they were looking at it. Expired = invalid to these clowns.

Bruce

Ari

Any other helpful advice for the OP.

I thought they accept ID's up to one year expired.

iansr

Is there not the 1 year rule still?

MrAndy1369

AFAIK, your ID still can be accepted if it's expired less than a year ago. You should be fine. Just ignore thegeneral, ID isn't security, but yeah... the TSA does accept expired IDs no later than a year out, so you'll be fine.

QUERY

Actually, I can, without any ID. My graying hair gets me in, every time.

Regarding your first sentence, it is a hypothetical.

gj83

re:military ID. I don't have one, but others reported that the older military IDs had no expiration date and thus TSA didn't always find them acceptable.

Do all military ID holders now have an ID with an expiration date?

Himeno

How does an ID expire? An identity doesn't expire until the person in question does. The only reason an ID card should "expire" is when the photo no longer matches the holder.
Just because a DL might have expired, doesn't mean that the identity proving aspect has.

Boggie Dog

Retired military ID's use to and may still have "Indef" as the expiration date.

goalie

from a banker's point of view, an i/d is no longer considered valid if it has passed the expiration date. yes, it may contain a photo of the person in question, yes it may have a current address of the person in question and yes it may have other pertinent information about the person in question (d.o.b, ht, & wt, etc.) but it is expired and thus not valid. it's that simple.

whether the institution (i.e. a bank or the tsa) chooses to accept it based on their internal policies and procedures as there may/may not be a way to in fact verify the identity of the person in question is another story.

gj83

The only valid argument I can think of against accepting expired ID is that the average person probably also renewed their ID and has a current version. This means it's easy to pass the old ID off to someone else who looks similar.


...other than that...I saw an article with the lady who had a face transplant. She was still using her old ID with a normal looking face even though for a while she has had a very horrible looking face. The ID was still valid, but boy had she changed.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30586321/
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/04...ent/index.html

Himeno

And what about all those ID cards that simply don't expire?

QUERY

It expires so the issuer can charge you more money for the next one, to add more security features, to update the photograph, to change the look of the card, to name a few reasons. For example, my Wisconsin's State ID used to cost me $4.00 and expired 4 years later on the date of my birthday. When I renewed last year, it cost $28.00 and is good for 8 years and expires on the date of my birthday. Doing the math, it cost me 7X as much as the last one and valid for 2X the period of time of the last one. When I asked one of the staff at the DMV why State IDs had gone up so much, he stated it was to comply with the Real ID legislation. I can't complain, driver's licenses are even more and if you had a DUI or accident, the cost is higher still.