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valve bouncer Nov 21, 2008 5:46 am


Originally Posted by Paint Horse (Post 10785311)
Amnesia! Did I or didn't I take that cruise? Let me check. Ok, the trip report is still there, so I must have. I need to remember to read that package insert. Or wait, maybe I did already. I don't remember or do I.

I get a very odd side effect that I call amnesia but it's more I forget that I can remember. For example, I'll take one, watch TV or use the internet while it kicks in and the next morning I can't really recall what I watched until I'm reminded of it by some kind of hint. Like I'll read a thread and halfway through I'll realise I read it the night before. It's hard to explain but some people don't like that feeling. There's tons of stories around about how people take one, aren't satisfied that it's working, take another one and when they wake up in the morning they've taken the whole strip of 10 tablets and can't remember doing it. It works but be careful!

newbiztraveler Nov 24, 2008 4:04 pm


Originally Posted by valve bouncer (Post 10789193)
I get a very odd side effect that I call amnesia but it's more I forget that I can remember. For example, I'll take one, watch TV or use the internet while it kicks in and the next morning I can't really recall what I watched until I'm reminded of it by some kind of hint. Like I'll read a thread and halfway through I'll realise I read it the night before. It's hard to explain but some people don't like that feeling. There's tons of stories around about how people take one, aren't satisfied that it's working, take another one and when they wake up in the morning they've taken the whole strip of 10 tablets and can't remember doing it. It works but be careful!


Read the comments attached to this... mostly hilarious
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/your...opinionid=8725

anacapamalibu Nov 24, 2008 5:26 pm


Originally Posted by holtju2 (Post 10788681)
Just buy these from countries where you don't need a prescription at all. Just walk to the pharmacy and tell what you would like to buy.

Lunesta OTC in China ..Generic "zopiclone" 12 tabs 5USD.

nkedel Nov 26, 2008 4:15 pm


Originally Posted by anacapamalibu (Post 10807482)
Lunesta OTC in China ..Generic "zopiclone" 12 tabs 5USD.

Lunesta is the brand name for the drug eszopiclone; zopiclone is a closely related drug, and from most perspectives can be treated as identical BUT since it's not a generally available drug in the US, can cause extra problems at customs.

Then again, all of the Z-drug sleeping medicines are scheduled (sched 4 I believe) and one should take care to be within the law (or exceeding its requirements where it's unclear) if importing them for personal use.

ralfp Nov 26, 2008 5:09 pm


Originally Posted by nkedel (Post 10819464)
Lunesta is the brand name for the drug eszopiclone; zopiclone is a closely related drug, and from most perspectives can be treated as identical BUT since it's not a generally available drug in the US, can cause extra problems at customs.

If one is getting something like that overseas for the first time (in small quantities), I'd be more worried about how it makes one act on the flight back and any legal consequences of those actions.

Seriously, people who are considering Z-drugs (or benzos) should be careful. They're wonderful medications, but an international flight is not the first time you want to wake up and not remember when or how you got to sleep. Consider that you may be fully aware of the dangers of combining these drugs with alcohol and be firm in not combining the two... before you take the drug. :eek:

Just so people don't think I'm against the modulation of GABA receptors: I would not hesitate to take these drugs... except when I'm alone away from home.

nkedel Nov 27, 2008 1:09 am


Originally Posted by ralfp (Post 10819718)
If one is getting something like that overseas for the first time (in small quantities), I'd be more worried about how it makes one act on the flight back and any legal consequences of those actions.

Seriously, people who are considering Z-drugs (or benzos) should be careful. They're wonderful medications, but an international flight is not the first time you want to wake up and not remember when or how you got to sleep.

That's very, very good advice for trying any kind of sleep medicine, or any other new non-emergency drug: it's best to try it near home, and near your regular health care provider, in case there's an adverse reaction. Sleep-med related amnesia certainly counts as an adverse reaction - my own experience was after changing BP meds, passing out.


Consider that you may be fully aware of the dangers of combining these drugs with alcohol and be firm in not combining the two... before you take the drug. :eek:
That's a particular danger of these, but you can generalize that to self-prescribing anything based on advice on the internet.


Just so people don't think I'm against the modulation of GABA receptors: I would not hesitate to take these drugs... except when I'm alone away from home.
I'm not sure I'd go that far, but certainly you don't want to be experimenting with how you respond to a new drug like that when alone and away from home.

ralfp Nov 27, 2008 8:29 am


Originally Posted by nkedel (Post 10821145)
it's best to try it near home, and near your regular health care provider,

I'd say that, IMO, having a family member or good friend (good enough to be willing to use force to stop stupid behavior) nearby, preferably awake, is critical. Plenty of people get in trouble at home with this kind of drug.


Originally Posted by nkedel (Post 10821145)
I'm not sure I'd go that far, but certainly you don't want to be experimenting with how you respond to a new drug like that when alone and away from home.

I'd hesitate to take Z-drugs or benzos while alone away from home; that is to say I'd still be willing to use them.

BDLORD Nov 30, 2008 9:31 pm


Originally Posted by newbiztraveler (Post 10807027)
Read the comments attached to this... mostly hilarious
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/your...opinionid=8725

Not that funny IMO
Lunestra's metalic taste takes hours to go away. I have thrown the bottle in the trash

BobbySteel Dec 1, 2008 6:49 am


Originally Posted by BDLORD (Post 10835455)
Not that funny IMO
Lunestra's metalic taste takes hours to go away. I have thrown the bottle in the trash

In fairness, the one on the third page entitled "pee fest" made me laugh out loud in my office for a few minutes.

Teacher49 Dec 2, 2008 12:41 pm

Some docs do not like to prescribe sleeping pills even for travel. I have recently had one that would prescribe anything I asked for but was medication happy in general and my current one who tries to keep all meds to a minimum and will not prescribe ambien for travel.

ralfp Dec 2, 2008 7:28 pm


Originally Posted by Teacher49 (Post 10844212)
Some docs do not like to prescribe sleeping pills even for travel. I have recently had one that would prescribe anything I asked for but was medication happy in general and my current one who tries to keep all meds to a minimum and will not prescribe ambien for travel.

It's all about the specific patient, but a blanket policy like that is a sign of a doctor to be avoided. Jet lag-induced insomnia is about as transient as insomnia gets.

For some it can be a health issue. If one must frequently travel for work in ways that cause serious jet-lag related insomnia, it can seriously affect one's well-being. Sure, the "ideal" solution is less travel, but that's often not an option.

Did the guy/gal suggest something like Rozerem, or even a melatonin supplement?

drummingcraig Dec 6, 2008 6:18 pm

I went to my primary care doc and he was more than happy to give me a virtual "trick-or-treat bag" full of samples (Ambien, Prilosec, etc).

I got about a half dozen or so samples of Ambien CR which I haven't tried yet. I normally go with Xanax (Alprolazam- generic) - One 0.5mg (we call 'em "Bluey's") usually does the trick for me. It takes the edge off enough for me to pass out, but won't put me down for days. Only side effect is a little grogginess once in awhile. These also work great for those restless nights when I'm trapped in a small bunk on a tour bus.

I am going to try the Ambien sometime one of these nights while I'm home to make sure I don't have any weird reactions to it because I will be flying LAX-MEL in a couple weeks and would sure like to use one on that trip. :cool:

vatraveler Dec 6, 2008 7:23 pm

Ambien causes hallucinations for me. Weird and a little scary.

PhillyPhlyer40 Dec 6, 2008 8:18 pm

[QUOTE=Teacher49;10844212]Some docs do not like to prescribe sleeping pills even for travel. QUOTE]


My doc REFUSED to prescribe ambien for "use in planes" but did compromise with me on Sonata for "use when jetlagged, at HOME!"

Oh if she only knew!! ;)


PS...sonata is the way to go..works GREAT for me!

airportdrunk Dec 7, 2008 5:04 pm


Originally Posted by iff (Post 10781311)
Do avoid buying it via the internet as you have no way to tell what's really in those pills.

Like anything else on the internet, you just have to do your research first. I ran a 100% legit offshore pharmacy for a few years and we did not send a single false pill. Our products were FDA approved for import into the USA just like yours.

There are plenty of online pharmacy review sites and forums which can point you in the right direction.


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