Why do luggage manufacturers keep making the same mistakes?
#31
Join Date: Oct 2009
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If you can lift your bag into the overhead you should be able to carry it down the aisle. I find it frustrating that people will spend large amounts of time and struggle in order to roll a bag for 50 feet rather than just picking it up and quickly moving it to their seat or the jetway.
#34
Join Date: Jun 2010
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You guys are talking about 2-3lbs overweight. So if its weighed by the airline and we are talking 2-3lbs, you take 2-3 lbs out of your bag and stuff it in your pocket or in your jacket. My point is, 2-3 lbs is a write off. That shouldn't decide what bag youre going to buy vs functionality.
And I agree if you cant physically lift your own bag into the overhead you shouldnt be packing it with that much stuff
And I agree if you cant physically lift your own bag into the overhead you shouldnt be packing it with that much stuff
#35
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: New York
Posts: 96
You guys are talking about 2-3lbs overweight. So if its weighed by the airline and we are talking 2-3lbs, you take 2-3 lbs out of your bag and stuff it in your pocket or in your jacket. My point is, 2-3 lbs is a write off. That shouldn't decide what bag youre going to buy vs functionality.
And I agree if you cant physically lift your own bag into the overhead you shouldnt be packing it with that much stuff
And I agree if you cant physically lift your own bag into the overhead you shouldnt be packing it with that much stuff
#36
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,303
2-3 lbs could be 10-15% of allowed carry-on weight on some carriers. I would prefer not to have to pull out the contents and wear them or try to fit a laptop/toiletries in my pockets. It can make sense to re-shift some weight towards the front or waist when doing long treks with a non-wheeled bag.
#37
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Again insignificant. youre talking about wearing your sport coat momentarily while they weight your bag and then stuffing it back into your bag.
#38
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MCI
Posts: 698
What do the airline crews use? I might just look into those since they travel DAILY
I always see them with fairly sturdy looking black carry-ons with single-direction wheels..which actually says alot to me.
I think the modern trend of 360-free-wheeling wheels are quite flimsy and likely prone to wear and break if used long time. It's convenient to be able to roll a luggage upright in any direction but I think the durability suffers quite a bit and maybe this is why you never see any airline crew use these types of luggage....
I always see them with fairly sturdy looking black carry-ons with single-direction wheels..which actually says alot to me.
I think the modern trend of 360-free-wheeling wheels are quite flimsy and likely prone to wear and break if used long time. It's convenient to be able to roll a luggage upright in any direction but I think the durability suffers quite a bit and maybe this is why you never see any airline crew use these types of luggage....
#39
Join Date: Jun 2010
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What do the airline crews use? I might just look into those since they travel DAILY
I always see them with fairly sturdy looking black carry-ons with single-direction wheels..which actually says alot to me.
I think the modern trend of 360-free-wheeling wheels are quite flimsy and likely prone to wear and break if used long time. It's convenient to be able to roll a luggage upright in any direction but I think the durability suffers quite a bit and maybe this is why you never see any airline crew use these types of luggage....
I always see them with fairly sturdy looking black carry-ons with single-direction wheels..which actually says alot to me.
I think the modern trend of 360-free-wheeling wheels are quite flimsy and likely prone to wear and break if used long time. It's convenient to be able to roll a luggage upright in any direction but I think the durability suffers quite a bit and maybe this is why you never see any airline crew use these types of luggage....
#40
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MCI
Posts: 698
They also get deals with certain brands of luggage which is why you see them with a lot of travelpro (not my favorite brand). But i agree. less moving parts, less things to break. i fly over 150 times a year. been using the same B&R roller carry on for the last 8 years. Never a single issue. Over a million miles on that bag all over the world. My samsonite spinner lasted a year.
I'm glad to hear you had the same experience as the "spinners" as that is what I'm afraid of when choosing luggage.
#41
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: New York
Posts: 96
And, if I do carry a sport coat, it is folded, cinched and packed such that it does not move or get wrinkled. The last thing I would want to do would be to remove it from the bag and then refold and it pack it again. Also, I do not own a sport coat that weighs 5lbs and if you do it must be lead-lined.
#42
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: LAX
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I think we have a couple of arguments going on simultaneously
For me, on a typical trip: Wheelless (i.e. backpack style) > Traditional roller > Spinner
However, sometimes I am forced to check a bag (carrying liquids or other chancy stuff) or even if there is a significant chance having to check, I don't feel comfortable checking my lightweight wheelless, so I use a (relatively) lightweight Eagle Creek roller bag I got at REI a number of years ago.
I did use a B&R roller for probably 15 years and really had no problem with it except it was so darn heavy. Wandering around Europe, getting on and off trains, trams, buses, etc. as well as staying in small hotels without an elevator that weight just took it's toll.
I got Hartmann spinner as a MM gift from Delta and just didn't like it. It was heavier than I liked (though lighter than the B&R), was a pain to roll it over anything but perfectly flat surfaces and would constantly try and run away You had to keep your hand on it at all times when on a bus, train, etc. -- the slightest bump and it would take off. If they had some sort of wheel lock I probably would have lived with it...
For me, on a typical trip: Wheelless (i.e. backpack style) > Traditional roller > Spinner
However, sometimes I am forced to check a bag (carrying liquids or other chancy stuff) or even if there is a significant chance having to check, I don't feel comfortable checking my lightweight wheelless, so I use a (relatively) lightweight Eagle Creek roller bag I got at REI a number of years ago.
I did use a B&R roller for probably 15 years and really had no problem with it except it was so darn heavy. Wandering around Europe, getting on and off trains, trams, buses, etc. as well as staying in small hotels without an elevator that weight just took it's toll.
I got Hartmann spinner as a MM gift from Delta and just didn't like it. It was heavier than I liked (though lighter than the B&R), was a pain to roll it over anything but perfectly flat surfaces and would constantly try and run away You had to keep your hand on it at all times when on a bus, train, etc. -- the slightest bump and it would take off. If they had some sort of wheel lock I probably would have lived with it...
#43
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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huge market share of biggest companies? samsonite acquired tumi for example
i started buying B&R after losing wheel and pocket on first trip with a samsonite
so far the one repair ive needed i got done free at local B&R partner
i started buying B&R after losing wheel and pocket on first trip with a samsonite
so far the one repair ive needed i got done free at local B&R partner
#44
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Except that I consider a 9+lb bag with wheels and a handle, which reduce useable volume and add needless weight, non-functional.
And, if I do carry a sport coat, it is folded, cinched and packed such that it does not move or get wrinkled. The last thing I would want to do would be to remove it from the bag and then refold and it pack it again. Also, I do not own a sport coat that weighs 5lbs and if you do it must be lead-lined.
And, if I do carry a sport coat, it is folded, cinched and packed such that it does not move or get wrinkled. The last thing I would want to do would be to remove it from the bag and then refold and it pack it again. Also, I do not own a sport coat that weighs 5lbs and if you do it must be lead-lined.
#45
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Kitchener, ON, Canada
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 1,266
True story - two weeks ago I'm in Peru on business. There's a general strike, and rather than being driven to the airport, I join a long line of travelers WALKING the last mile.
Let me remind you - I'm in Peru. Cobblestones. Narrow streets. Dirt, dust, heat - and I'm at altitude.
As it was, I popped my Gate8 Cabinmate on my back, deployed the backpack straps, and took off. Wandered right through the crowds, over the cobblestones, over the broken curbs... and caught my flight. If I solely had wheeled luggage, I'd still be there, crying in a tired, dusty heap.