what carry-on makes someone a sophisticated traveller?
Mar 28, 2012, 7:45 am
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"Nouveau riche" springs to mind.
Mar 28, 2012, 8:36 am
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Sophisticated vs. Smart
I'd be more likely to judge a persons travel prowess by how smart they traveled... size of carry-on, location of seat, ease at which they navigate the travel experience, etc. and less on the brand of luggage they carry.
In fact, If they carried some crazy brand name I would be more likely to think that they were an insecure traveller/person and were over compensating...
In fact, If they carried some crazy brand name I would be more likely to think that they were an insecure traveller/person and were over compensating...
Mar 28, 2012, 1:19 pm
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Well, there are a few definitions of "Sophisticated".
One that would seem to apply here is;
Having a refined knowledge of the ways of the world cultivated especially through wide experience
Walking around airports toting a Louis Vuitton in one hand, a Vertu cell phone in the other while sporting an Armani blazer with a Hermes Cravat may "appear" to be sophisticated to some. Others would find it simply gauche.
Because "sophisticated" may have a slightly different meaning between people, it's hard to define. Each will judge sophistication on their own merit.
One that would seem to apply here is;
Having a refined knowledge of the ways of the world cultivated especially through wide experience
Walking around airports toting a Louis Vuitton in one hand, a Vertu cell phone in the other while sporting an Armani blazer with a Hermes Cravat may "appear" to be sophisticated to some. Others would find it simply gauche.
Because "sophisticated" may have a slightly different meaning between people, it's hard to define. Each will judge sophistication on their own merit.
Mar 28, 2012, 2:36 pm
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Actually a cravat is a very practical, unisex, and elegant item here in Europe.
It warms the neck in cooler weather, and is worn as sort of a cross between scarves and silk ties. Acceptable in most good restaurants with a jacket but in lieu of a tie.
There was a time when flying First Classe required a jacket, at least for Interliners.
It warms the neck in cooler weather, and is worn as sort of a cross between scarves and silk ties. Acceptable in most good restaurants with a jacket but in lieu of a tie.
There was a time when flying First Classe required a jacket, at least for Interliners.
Mar 28, 2012, 2:48 pm
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Actually a cravat is a very practical, unisex, and elegant item here in Europe.
It warms the neck in cooler weather, and is worn as sort of a cross between scarves and silk ties. Acceptable in most good restaurants with a jacket but in lieu of a tie.
There was a time when flying First Classe required a jacket, at least for Interliners.
It warms the neck in cooler weather, and is worn as sort of a cross between scarves and silk ties. Acceptable in most good restaurants with a jacket but in lieu of a tie.
There was a time when flying First Classe required a jacket, at least for Interliners.
In a way, I miss the days of required jacket and tie (or cravat).
Mar 28, 2012, 2:57 pm
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Mar 28, 2012, 4:10 pm
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I respect your point of view.
I fear it's gone too far the opposite. I'm seeing a lot of sweatpants, curlers in the hair (yes, I've seen this), and people that look like they just rolled out of bed. It would not hurt to have some self-esteem when out in public. How hard can it be to shave, comb your hair and pull on a pair of pants?
Unfortunately, your point of view is the rule of the day. When you have PAX that could not be bothered to even put on clothes for travel, other than the sweats they slept in, then I guess it is what it is.
I did have a PAX next to me in first once tell me she was upset because First Class looked like steerage. She happened to look like she just stepped out of a Vogue Magazine ad. She commented that I was wearing a suit and she liked the fact that I was. I told her I had to, since I had a business meeting the moment I got to the airport, grabbed a cab, and got to the meeting place.
Honestly, for the last few years of flying, I do not wear a jacket or tie. Jeans or Khaki and a nice shirt is my standard fare. But I do not wear sweats, not even for my ORD to HNL flights that I take quite often.
I fear it's gone too far the opposite. I'm seeing a lot of sweatpants, curlers in the hair (yes, I've seen this), and people that look like they just rolled out of bed. It would not hurt to have some self-esteem when out in public. How hard can it be to shave, comb your hair and pull on a pair of pants?
Unfortunately, your point of view is the rule of the day. When you have PAX that could not be bothered to even put on clothes for travel, other than the sweats they slept in, then I guess it is what it is.
I did have a PAX next to me in first once tell me she was upset because First Class looked like steerage. She happened to look like she just stepped out of a Vogue Magazine ad. She commented that I was wearing a suit and she liked the fact that I was. I told her I had to, since I had a business meeting the moment I got to the airport, grabbed a cab, and got to the meeting place.
Honestly, for the last few years of flying, I do not wear a jacket or tie. Jeans or Khaki and a nice shirt is my standard fare. But I do not wear sweats, not even for my ORD to HNL flights that I take quite often.
Mar 28, 2012, 4:13 pm
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I respect your point of view.
I fear it's gone too far the opposite. I'm seeing a lot of sweatpants, curlers in the hair (yes, I've seen this), and people that look like they just rolled out of bed. It would not hurt to have some self-esteem when out in public. How hard can it be to shave, comb your hair and pull on a pair of pants?
Unfortunately, your point of view is the rule of the day. When you have PAX that could not be bothered to even put on clothes for travel, other than the sweats they slept in, then I guess it is what it is.
I did have a PAX next to me in first once tell me she was upset because First Class looked like steerage. She happened to look like she just stepped out of a Vogue Magazine ad. She commented that I was wearing a suit and she liked the fact that I was. I told her I had to, since I had a business meeting the moment I got to the airport, grabbed a cab, and got to the meeting place.
Honestly, for the last few years of flying, I do not wear a jacket or tie. Jeans or Khaki and a nice shirt is my standard fare. But I do not wear sweats, not even for my ORD to HNL flights that I take quite often.
I fear it's gone too far the opposite. I'm seeing a lot of sweatpants, curlers in the hair (yes, I've seen this), and people that look like they just rolled out of bed. It would not hurt to have some self-esteem when out in public. How hard can it be to shave, comb your hair and pull on a pair of pants?
Unfortunately, your point of view is the rule of the day. When you have PAX that could not be bothered to even put on clothes for travel, other than the sweats they slept in, then I guess it is what it is.
I did have a PAX next to me in first once tell me she was upset because First Class looked like steerage. She happened to look like she just stepped out of a Vogue Magazine ad. She commented that I was wearing a suit and she liked the fact that I was. I told her I had to, since I had a business meeting the moment I got to the airport, grabbed a cab, and got to the meeting place.
Honestly, for the last few years of flying, I do not wear a jacket or tie. Jeans or Khaki and a nice shirt is my standard fare. But I do not wear sweats, not even for my ORD to HNL flights that I take quite often.
Mar 28, 2012, 6:29 pm
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Mar 28, 2012, 6:36 pm
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Mar 28, 2012, 6:44 pm
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I typically walk around airports toting my Louis Vuitton in one hand and my Vertu cell phone in the other sporting an Armani blazer with a Hermes Cravat while asking passers-by in my heavy French Accent... "Pardon me, but, do you know where I could get a decent flute of Veuve Clicquot before my first class flight to Paris?"
Most casual travelers often say, "WOW! He's such a SOPHISTICATED traveler!"
Most casual travelers often say, "WOW! He's such a SOPHISTICATED traveler!"
Mar 28, 2012, 6:45 pm
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I typically walk around airports toting my Louis Vuitton in one hand and my Vertu cell phone in the other sporting an Armani blazer with a Hermes Cravat while asking passers-by in my heavy French Accent... "Pardon me, but, do you know where I could get a decent flute of Veuve Clicquot before my first class flight to Paris?"
Most casual travelers often say, "WOW! He's such a SOPHISTICATED traveler!"
Most casual travelers often say, "WOW! He's such a SOPHISTICATED traveler!"
Mar 28, 2012, 6:49 pm
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