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Canon 7D released
18MP APS-C
ISO 6400, expandable to 12800 8fps built-in external flash controller 63 zone metering 19 cross-type AF sensors selective zone, Horizontal/Vertical, and spot-Auto Focus settings HD Video, 1080@24, 25, or 30fps; 720@30, 60 fps 1.0x, 100% viewfinder 1N-class weathersealing LCD viewfinder overlays for composition grids, horizon line, AF locations Dual Digic 4 processors, full UDMA support $1699 Proof will obviously lie in the images/usage, but it looks pretty good on paper. |
Hmmmm.... so what will the Nikon reply to this be....?????
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If it was full frame I would be all over it.
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Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
(Post 12312970)
Hmmmm.... so what will the Nikon reply to this be....?????
Not sure what the benefit of an additional 3 or 4 MPs will be if the other IQ parameters can't keep up. Nikon will however have to do something about price. The D300s is currently priced several hundred dollars above where Canon says the 7D will be. If a D400 does come out soon Nikon will have to be within a few hundred dollars of the 7D and slice the heck out of the price of both the D300 and D300s. I am no expert but I would question whether or not the D300s could in the marketplace go head-to-head with the 7D. In terms of absolute image quality I bet they will be quite close but Nikon loses the PR war on price and features. Also, were I Nikon I would be far more worried about how far Nikon has fallen behind Canon in the ~f/4-affordable-high-quality lens department. Along with their long and fast glass, the Nikkor 14-24 f/2.8, 24-70 f/2.8, and new 70-200 f/2.8 are the best lenses on the market bar none but after that, meh. |
Originally Posted by anrkitec
(Post 12315707)
unless Canon has had some type of monumental technological breakthrough, I don't see how they are going to get 18MP on an APS-C sensor and still keep up with Nikon in the low noise/high ISO department.
Canon claims there were several improvements - tighter microlens alignment, improved S/N electronics in the amplifiers, etc., etc. Imaging Resources has published their evaluation - "All in all, the Canon 7D delivers exceptional print quality, with phenomenal detail (especially when working from RAW) at low ISOs, and a very graceful trade-off between noise and subject detail as you go up the ISO scale." and the only comparison I've seen so far - http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5231/50dvs7d.jpg - shows better detail and noise performance over the 50D. D300 comparisons will be interesting. And there's a 10.1MP mRAW version, which uses pixel binning to effectively deliver a 10.1MP version of the 7D. If the native 18MP is already better than the 50D, I imagine a 10.1MP binned version will be outstanding. In either case, it is at least a competitive offering with current Nikons, whereas the 50D fell a bit short, and competition will only serve to better everything for the consumers - us. |
From the press release:
We consulted over 5,000 photographers worldwide and asked them what they most wanted to see from a camera. Edit: But come to think of it, I may be interested as I can keep my EF-S lenses. |
Sounds promising.......
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Originally Posted by rkkwan
(Post 12316398)
From the press release:
Seriously? These 5,000 photographers didn't say they want a full-frame dSLR that's cheaper than the 5DII? Edit: But come to think of it, I may be interested as I can keep my EF-S lenses. [pauses. searches the internet.] Okay, that numbering scheme was unexpected. But it looks like a nice camera. And yes, keeping my EF-S lenses is a minor benefit here. I'd better start saving the nickels... |
Originally Posted by rh314
(Post 12317774)
Wait. The successor to the 5D is a 1.6x crop sensor?
[pauses. searches the internet.] Okay, that numbering scheme was unexpected. But it looks like a nice camera. And yes, keeping my EF-S lenses is a minor benefit here. I'd better start saving the nickels... |
Originally Posted by rkkwan
(Post 12316398)
From the press release:
Seriously? These 5,000 photographers didn't say they want a full-frame dSLR that's cheaper than the 5DII? Edit: But come to think of it, I may be interested as I can keep my EF-S lenses. Of course, every now and then I do wish I could get a wider field of view. But for me personally, that tends to be a little less common. Wonder how this one will do with teleconverters on slower lenses. |
I have mixed opinions of "tests". Theoretically, they show interesting data. But they can easily be executed incorrectly and show bad data. This one, for example, is purely from-camera JPEG, which doesn't necessarily mean much to me as a RAW shooter. But fwiw, here's the first comparison I've seen, from imaging-resources. D300 on left, 7D on right. ISO100 on top, ISO6400 on bottom
http://richs.smugmug.com/photos/637667676_VZVMZ-XL.jpg |
Originally Posted by CPRich
(Post 12320797)
I have mixed opinions of "tests". Theoretically, they show interesting data. But they can easily be executed incorrectly and show bad data.
How many other vairables/parameters were also changed? The 7D may or may not be a great camera but to me all this test shows is that someone with some free time was able to get their hands on both a D300 and a 7D. Also, if you could edit the physical dimensions of that image down just a bit it would make it easier to view the page. |
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Originally Posted by mobilebucky
(Post 12325788)
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Originally Posted by anrkitec
(Post 12321262)
The 7D may or may not be a great camera but to me all this test shows is that someone with some free time was able to get their hands on both a D300 and a 7D.
There is no perfect testing, but I'm pretty sure IR is near the very top of the controlled, repeatable, trusted test sources. At a minimum, it's far from a guy with some free time. http://richs.smugmug.com/photos/638584497_BPY68-XL.jpg |
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