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Impact on travel from EU to US with a small emotional support dog?

Impact on travel from EU to US with a small emotional support dog?

Old May 26, 20, 9:31 pm
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Originally Posted by knownothing
You also need a shrink (not reg MD) to sign off that you need it
That comment is just plain rude and not accurate if you read the federal regulations. "shrink," short for "head shrinker" is a spiteful term used to mean a psychiatrist and disparaging to those with mental health issues, including the OP of this thread.

Federal regulations do not require a psychiatrist to attest to the need for an ESA; the term in the regs "licensed mental health professional" which is a far broader category of practitioners. The breadth of that category is part of the present problem with ESA's: there are too many unethical practitioners willing to sell a letter of need to anyone who can pay the fee.
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Old May 27, 20, 2:27 am
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Originally Posted by CDTraveler
That comment is just plain rude and not accurate if you read the federal regulations. "shrink," short for "head shrinker" is a spiteful term used to mean a psychiatrist and disparaging to those with mental health issues, including the OP of this thread.

Federal regulations do not require a psychiatrist to attest to the need for an ESA; the term in the regs "licensed mental health professional" which is a far broader category of practitioners. The breadth of that category is part of the present problem with ESA's: there are too many unethical practitioners willing to sell a letter of need to anyone who can pay the fee.
I have no doubt at all that your second paragraph is spot on. As to "shrink" being seen as "spiteful" or "disparaging"...well..that must depend on where you are. My late father was a Psychiatrist and didn't mind that label at all.... my brother refers routinely to HIS (much admired) Psychiatrist as his "shrink".... A "cultural" thing perhaps?
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Old May 27, 20, 3:34 am
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Originally Posted by trooper
My late father was a Psychiatrist and didn't mind that label at all....
I won't call a psychiatrist as a shrink. A psychiatrist is a medical doctor who literally learned how to save lives. A psychologist may not even require to learn CPR. Even both are difficult to obtain, psychologists are relatively easier to obtain than psychiatrists.
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Old May 27, 20, 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by RSSrsvp
I am merely asking for you to post the links to the AA, DL and UA rules.

PS, this isn't my first rodeo, please don't tell me what I can and can't do as a moderator.
Didn't mean to buck you before your 8 seconds. Just that too many are "lazy" and don't google themselves. As the poster after you showed, it was an easy link to UA and .....
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Old May 27, 20, 9:43 am
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Originally Posted by CDTraveler
"licensed mental health professional" .
Most docs refer to them as shrinks also bone cutter, ....... looker, etc (orthopod, GI)

and it refers not just to the MD but also the social worker psychologist : the whole box of "mental health workers" And ref your "unethical" practitioners. I find that a very rude comment. As in law and every other profession there are a few black sheep
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Old Jun 6, 20, 6:06 pm
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Originally Posted by trooper
I have no doubt at all that your second paragraph is spot on. As to "shrink" being seen as "spiteful" or "disparaging"...well..that must depend on where you are. My late father was a Psychiatrist and didn't mind that label at all.... my brother refers routinely to HIS (much admired) Psychiatrist as his "shrink".... A "cultural" thing perhaps?
Worked on an inpatient psych ward for 9 years. The term "shrink" was verbotten as it was considered offensive to both psychiatrists and patients. The implication that patients needed their heads "shrunk" was very upsetting to many patients.

YMMV
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Old Jun 7, 20, 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by RSSrsvp
Please provide your sources to support your statements.

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While most state "mental health care worker" which implies that a GP can so certify (and they can if they are treating a psych illness - American (at least) is often calling the doc's office to verify. which is cracking down on the "on-line" letters. And if you look at "doctor" forums, because of legal ramifications, many are not so doing. In my son's practice about 1/2 of the GP won't do it - but will refer to a psychologist

United and Delta have an 8 hour flight time restriction
https://thepointsguy.com/news/united...pport-animals/

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This tread has also gone into overtime and nothing new of value has been posted. Therefore I am shutting this one down.

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Old Jun 27, 20, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by RSSrsvp
I was merely asking for sources, how about AA & DL so everyone is brought up to date?

Delta restricts emotional support animals on flights over ...

news.delta.com/delta-restricts-emotional-support... Jun 04, 2020 Delta restricts emotional support animals on flights over eight hours Effective Dec. 18, Delta is updating its service and support animal policy. The enhancements introduce a ban on service and support animals under four months of age regardless of flight length as well as a ban on emotional support animals on flights longer than eight hours.
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