Visitors to US must supply address
Although the Times article mentions just the UK, I'm guessing this will apply to all visitors.
Travellers to the United States who lack precise details of their accommodation there may be barred from flights. From October 4 the US will require that airlines present first-night addresses or face a fine of £1,900 for each passenger not in compliance. Passengers will need to supply a full address — street number, street, city, state and postcode — or risk being barred from flights or turned back by immigration officials. Airlines will be responsible for returning passengers to Britain if they land without the correct information. The rules, issued by the US Department of Homeland Security, are designed to yield more information than the “Marriott. New York” that some of the September 11, 2001, hijackers submitted when they arrived. A six-month start-up period will allow passengers and airlines to get used to the regulations. |
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DHS should be disbanded for harassing our guests with this idiocy! :mad: |
What happens if I don't know the street address or phone number of the Marriott Times Square? Or if I'm driving down the PCH and don't have any accommodations planned? Or, or, or...
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Originally Posted by tcook052
What happens if I don't know the street address or phone number of the Marriott Times Square? Or if I'm driving down the PCH and don't have any accommodations planned? Or, or, or...
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They can start with these rules whenever they want, it won't hurt me. I have already started my own rules almost a year ago by organizing all meetings that normally would take place in the US, in Asia.
Quite a lot of savings have been achieved already and my clients and partners enjoy the change. They all said better service, friendly immigration and customs, better airlines :) Although American, I avoid any unnecessary trip home, that is anywhere except ATL. |
Originally Posted by magexpect
They can start with these rules whenever they want, it won't hurt me. I have already started my own rules almost a year ago by organizing all meetings that normally would take place in the US, in Asia.
Quite a lot of savings have been achieved already and my clients and partners enjoy the change. They all said better service, friendly immigration and customs, better airlines :) Although American, I avoid any unnecessary trip home, that is anywhere except ATL. I hope the rest of the world continues to book away from the US until this nation comes to its senses and stops harassing its guests. |
I visited UK over the summer.
When entering the UK, a form did specifically asked me where I was staying along with address. I don't see any harm that the US is asking. Perhaps, we should not visit UK also. |
Originally Posted by goingsomewhere
I visited UK over the summer.
When entering the UK, a form did specifically asked me where I was staying along with address. I don't see any harm that the US is asking. Perhaps, we should not visit UK also. Paddington Hilton, or similar has always been accepted. |
When a previous thread on this topic was posted, I asked a question to which no answer was given:
What possible use is this ? Assuming a 'terrorist' is not going to do his/her deed on the day of arrival, who cares where they sleep that night ? Mindless bureaucracy. |
Ugh.
Thank goodness right now I'm in Montreal :cool: |
Originally Posted by tcook052
What happens if I don't know the street address or phone number of the Marriott Times Square? Or if I'm driving down the PCH and don't have any accommodations planned? Or, or, or...
Of course, this whole exercise is just as stupid as the government asking people on forms whether they are terrorists. Anyone wishing to be deceitful will simply list whatever address they choose. The only ones who will be inconvenienced are those who are being honest and have nothing to hide. :td: |
Originally Posted by goingsomewhere
I don't see any harm that the US is asking.
I wonder what would happen if you wrote "1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW Washington, DC 20500-0001" on the form? |
What if the person isn't staying overnight?
This really confused the Thai immigrattion guys at BKK 2 years ago. I arrived from TPE and had an 8 hour layover or so. They had to get their supervisor to clear me through. Even though their English was okay they didn't seem to get the idea that I was staying for 6 hours. I should have just put down some hotel... |
Originally Posted by xyzzy
I wonder what would happen if you wrote "1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW Washington, DC 20500-0001" on the form?
Many countries ask for your address - I've not been to one yet that actually cared, or even looked at that entry. The US program sounds decidely different, which would fit with the policy of US immigration making visiting the US an unpleasant experience every non-citizen, including those with as close to zero risk of terrorism as possible (New Zealand!) |
It seems like a questionable exercise with a dubious PITA-to-value quotient.
Am tempted to committ some other landmark to memory, not the White House, but like in the movie Blues Brothers where Dan Ackroyd gives the cops an address and it's Wrigley Field. :D |
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