locked luggage may return to airport
Nov 26, 2003, 11:39 am
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locked luggage may return to airport
Here's a story of note I must have missed on a busy Monday:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ss/7323180.htm
Airline passengers who worry about damage to and pilferage of checked bags may want to check out a new security device developed by Washington, D.C.-based Travel Sentry and supported by the federal Transportation Security Administration.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...ss/7323180.htm
Airline passengers who worry about damage to and pilferage of checked bags may want to check out a new security device developed by Washington, D.C.-based Travel Sentry and supported by the federal Transportation Security Administration.
Nov 26, 2003, 1:32 pm
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Sure, would you give the keys to your house or car to 50,000 people "just in case they need to check it out?"
Baggage should only be opened in the presense of the passenger unless that passenger has authorized it be opened w/o their presense.
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Baggage should only be opened in the presense of the passenger unless that passenger has authorized it be opened w/o their presense.
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Nov 28, 2003, 11:24 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">The federal agency's policy now calls for TSA inspectors to unlock and relock luggage with Travel Sentry-certified locks, identifiable by a triangular red logo.</font>
I wonder, if the TSA drones don't notice that a bag has these new-fangled locks and they cut them off does the traveler have any recourse? Probably not...
Also, if the TSA folks have the decoding key for these locks then how long will it take until their friends the baggage handlers will have them too? A lock with an obvious key is just like having no lock at all!
Nov 29, 2003, 9:54 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by xyzzy:
So, does anyone know whose campaing the Travel Sentry folks made the large donation to? Is this company represented by the wife of Herr Daschle?
I wonder, if the TSA drones don't notice that a bag has these new-fangled locks and they cut them off does the traveler have any recourse? Probably not...
The federal agency's policy now calls for TSA inspectors to unlock and relock luggage with Travel Sentry-certified locks, identifiable by a triangular red logo.</font>
I wonder, if the TSA drones don't notice that a bag has these new-fangled locks and they cut them off does the traveler have any recourse? Probably not...
When I complained at SDF, the idiot I dealt with denied liability, scolded me for locking my luggage, and finally handed me a TSA claim form when I started requesting names and telephone numbers.
Furthermore, There was no "TSA inspection notice" inside my suitcase and it wasn't re-sealed with anything. Go figure -- the TSA can't get anything right.
FWIW, I'm going to send the form in with the receipt for my lock & request additional for damage to the suitcase, cc it to my Senators
& Representative, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
It's probably not worth my time or effort, but we'll see what happens. The TSA will probably spend more time and money to deny the claim than what the claim is actually worth. Unfortunately, the TSA is a friggin multi-billion dollar joke at taxpayer expense.. is anyone feeling safer yet?
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Nov 30, 2003, 10:46 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jonesing:
hmmm how long before the keys show up on eBay?</font>
hmmm how long before the keys show up on eBay?</font>
I think these locks will do much more harm than good.
Nov 30, 2003, 6:35 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by SDF_Traveler:
FWIW, I bought a set of two and figured I'd give it a test run. Lock was cutoff & suitcase damaged at DTW by the TSA at the checkpoint where they re-screen (CTX) your luggage after US Customs. Let's just say it didn't surprise me.
When I complained at SDF, the idiot I dealt with denied liability, scolded me for locking my luggage, and finally handed me a TSA claim form when I started requesting names and telephone numbers.
Furthermore, There was no "TSA inspection notice" inside my suitcase and it wasn't re-sealed with anything. Go figure -- the TSA can't get anything right.</font>
FWIW, I bought a set of two and figured I'd give it a test run. Lock was cutoff & suitcase damaged at DTW by the TSA at the checkpoint where they re-screen (CTX) your luggage after US Customs. Let's just say it didn't surprise me.
When I complained at SDF, the idiot I dealt with denied liability, scolded me for locking my luggage, and finally handed me a TSA claim form when I started requesting names and telephone numbers.
Furthermore, There was no "TSA inspection notice" inside my suitcase and it wasn't re-sealed with anything. Go figure -- the TSA can't get anything right.</font>
Dec 1, 2003, 10:49 am
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Locks to which TSA had the key could at least be helpful in ensuring that TSA can't pass the buck to the airlines when something is stolen from the bag.
Being required to leave bags unlocked is bad, but so is this shell game of blame and denial that the airlines and TSA play every time something goes missing.
Dec 1, 2003, 3:50 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by studentff:
Locks to which TSA had the key could at least be helpful in ensuring that TSA can't pass the buck to the airlines when something is stolen from the bag.
Being required to leave bags unlocked is bad, but so is this shell game of blame and denial that the airlines and TSA play every time something goes missing.</font>
Locks to which TSA had the key could at least be helpful in ensuring that TSA can't pass the buck to the airlines when something is stolen from the bag.
Being required to leave bags unlocked is bad, but so is this shell game of blame and denial that the airlines and TSA play every time something goes missing.</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jimc_usa:
Is it worth complaining because your neatly packed suitcase is now a mess, clothes all rumpled etc?
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Is it worth complaining because your neatly packed suitcase is now a mess, clothes all rumpled etc?
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Dec 2, 2003, 4:31 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jimc_usa:
Is it worth complaining because your neatly packed suitcase is now a mess, clothes all rumpled etc?</font>
Is it worth complaining because your neatly packed suitcase is now a mess, clothes all rumpled etc?</font>
Perhaps if everybody started complaining about that and filing lawsuits against the TSA in small claims court for the cost of dry cleaning and getting clothes pressed, then the careless agents out there might become more careful.
I mind them rifling through my things. I mind them carelessly rifling through my things even more. If I had my way, every agent who wrinkled a suit or shirt of mine would be fired on the spot.
Dec 2, 2003, 5:59 pm
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When we did bag checks with pax right there, it wasn't always easy to repack the bag the way we found it, even with there help.
Of course, at this time, pax showed usually about an hour to half an hour before their flight and it didn't make it any easier. We had to check on SSSS bags.
A lot of us got really good at being quick and neat about it, but the bag had to be packed reasonable to do so.
This was with a PAX there to watch us try to get this stuff repacked. I had a lady show up a half hour before her flight and miss because she had three checked bags to be checked and she wanted everything packed exaclty how she had it and for it to be neatly. She blamed me for missing her flight. But the bags were repacked the same if not better.
Of course, at this time, pax showed usually about an hour to half an hour before their flight and it didn't make it any easier. We had to check on SSSS bags.
A lot of us got really good at being quick and neat about it, but the bag had to be packed reasonable to do so.
This was with a PAX there to watch us try to get this stuff repacked. I had a lady show up a half hour before her flight and miss because she had three checked bags to be checked and she wanted everything packed exaclty how she had it and for it to be neatly. She blamed me for missing her flight. But the bags were repacked the same if not better.