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Yet another Russian aircraft crashes

Yet another Russian aircraft crashes

Old Sep 7, 11, 7:17 pm
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Yet another Russian aircraft crashes

The aircraft involved this time was a Yakovlev-42, and was carrying a Russian hockey team.



Russian plane crash highlights air travel safety issues
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Old Sep 7, 11, 7:27 pm
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As a St. Louis Blues fan, I was devastated to hear that Pavol Dimitra was on that flight.

RIP Lokomotiv Jaroslavl
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Old Sep 7, 11, 9:48 pm
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As a St. Louis Blues fan, I was devastated to hear that Pavol Dimitra was on that flight.

RIP Lokomotiv Jaroslavl
There were quite a few NHL alumni on that plane. Everybody will be missed, be they former NHL players, lifelong KHL players, or flight attendants that will be mourned by friends and family.

As a hockey fan, I'm wondering (with no disrespect to the dead) how the league will carry on from this tragedy. This is a major professional league in world sports. I know of plane crashes in the past that have obliterated/handicapped teams in the past, but most of them that I know of are international competition type teams (ala Sabena 548 with the US figure skating team, and Cubana 455 with the Cuban fencing team). This is unique in that it is a professional, high caliber, league oriented team involved. How will the KHL recover. Will there be a dispersion draft to attempt to reconstitute the team? Will the league play with 23 teams, and give a wild-card spot to the Western Division for post-season purposes? If they go with the second option, what will they do with all of those games that were already scheduled with Lokomotiv Yaroslavl?

I'm not trying to be callous, but in the modern era, of big money and sponsorships, an entire professional team being wiped out is unheard of. I just wonder (other than what caused the crash, which I'm curious about also) how the KHL will deal with this.
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Old Sep 7, 11, 10:54 pm
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Given the safety record of Russian aviation/aircraft, I'm left wondering why these teams don't charter western aircraft? I would never step foot on a Russian made plane.
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I am sorry for the loss of lives.

I lived in Russia for 3 years and flew Russian airlines within Russia - I had no choice in order to get where I needed to go for work. The only time I have been terrified (or really had any anxiety whatsoever) while flying was flying on Russian aircraft. I am glad that I no longer have to fly Russian aircraft.
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This one hurts not only as a major hockey fan but also having seen many of the players play the game. My condolences to their families.
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Originally Posted by goalie View Post
This one hurts not only as a major hockey fan but also having seen many of the players play the game. My condolences to their families.
Yes, unfortunately, all Hockey players is being killed. It was so terrible tragic news for Russian hockey players didn't survived. Who is responsible for flying on Russian aircraft? Didn't they have a safety issue?
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Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO View Post
Yet another Russian aircraft crashes
I'm so glad we get to rely on them for all of our space transport now....
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I'm so glad we get to rely on them for all of our space transport now....
Challenger, Columbia? Russians haven't had a fatality in space program since early 70s...
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Originally Posted by azepine00 View Post
Challenger, Columbia? Russians haven't had a fatality in space program since early 70s...
That we know of...
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Originally Posted by goalie View Post
This one hurts not only as a major hockey fan but also having seen many of the players play the game. My condolences to their families.
Feeling the sadness too. As a DTW Wings fan/ticket holder, I got to meet Rusan Solei last year, and Brad McCrimmon years ago when I was in high school.
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Old Sep 8, 11, 8:56 pm
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Originally Posted by azepine00 View Post
Challenger, Columbia? Russians haven't had a fatality in space program since early 70s...
Thats not saying much considering the Russians don't have much of a space program.
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i believe it now

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In 2010, Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States region saw an average of 7.15 accidents for every million flights compared with an average of 1.76 in 2009, according to the Air Transport Association. The global average was 2.56 in 2010 and 2.54 in 2009.
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Originally Posted by goalie View Post
This one hurts not only as a major hockey fan but also having seen many of the players play the game. My condolences to their families.
It definitely hurts! I don't know what to say other than to offer them my condolences also.
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Old Sep 9, 11, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO View Post
Thats not saying much considering the Russians don't have much of a space program.
They do. 44 Soyuz launches since start of 1992, compared to 91 Shuttles in the same time.

The track record of Shuttle is 135 launches, 2 crashes. Soyuz has 110 launches, also 2 crashes.

But both Soyuz crashes were between the first 10 launches.
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