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Boeing To Announce The 797 At Paris Airshow

Old Mar 7, 11, 1:13 pm
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Boeing To Announce The 797 At Paris Airshow

http://atwonline.com/[email protected]

http://aeroturbopower.blogspot.com/2...successor.html

This is bigs days for Boeing will be official at Paris Air Show on June 20, 2011. This is brand new B797 as 737 replacement.

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Old Mar 7, 11, 4:24 pm
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Would be an interesting departure from traditional narrow body aircraft seating concept..
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Interesting. Thanks for posting! If WN really wants to start service to Hawaii , perhaps they'd purchase a few of these birds.
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Entry into service 2018... oops 2020... oops 2021
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Originally Posted by rankourabu View Post
Entry into service 2018... oops 2020... oops 2021
hahaha...very funny, huh? LOL!!!
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Originally Posted by rankourabu View Post
Entry into service 2018... oops 2020... oops 2021
it's 2025, where's the 787?
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Originally Posted by bniu View Post
it's 2025, where's the 787?
It's now the 7107 and it's due to be introduced in 2030
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Originally Posted by bniu View Post
it's 2025, where's the 787?
Actually, the 787 is certified and first 787 deliveries to the airlines in mid-2011.
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Actually, the 787 is certified and first 787 deliveries to the airlines in mid-2011.
I assure you that the 787 is not certified yet.
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some thoughts

It sounds a bit odd to me... probably because we don't have that today. A twin isle, stubby plane? Hmmm... I can see if it's long enough (a 739 or 757 takes a while to load/unload) but if it's relatively short, it may not save all that much time.

What irks me is that they keep designing seats with [at most] the same width and pitch as 30-40 years ago. People are both taller and fatter today, and of all the new features (the 787 promises bigger windows), how come more pax space is NEVER on the list? And that brings me back to the previous point - if people didn't have such a hard time squeezing in and out of their seats, maybe it wouldn't take so long to turn the plane around.
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Originally Posted by florin View Post
It sounds a bit odd to me... probably because we don't have that today. A twin isle, stubby plane?
Here's the original thread on the subject

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/newss...ent-737-a.html

As I said then

A single aisle would mean only 6 seats per row - and two middle seats per row rather than 7 seats and one middle seat per row.

Single aisle planes also have a negative image with many passengers as two aisles look "more grown up". Two aisles give more options for evacuation and getting round the plane.

BUT the killer is that 2 seats by themselves are always popular with passengers,

I wonder though what happens with the overhead lockers as by necessity they would have to be shallower.
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Originally Posted by alanR View Post
...As I said then
A single aisle would mean only 6 seats per row - and two middle seats per row rather than 7 seats and one middle seat per row. ...

I wonder though what happens with the overhead lockers as by necessity they would have to be shallower
1. Six seats plus one aisle fit in a much narrower fuselage than seven seats plus two aisles. The added width is 50 percent useful, 50 percent overhead: a much worse ratio than the passenger compartment overall. This is a major aircraft design change, not just a question of passenger or airline preference.

2. In today's two-aisle 2-3-2 configurations, the side compartments are shallower than they can be over a three-seat row (though many airlines don't utilize the potential depth!) but there is additional overhead storage over the center section. It balances out. Advantage: neither.

A separate issue is that a storage compartment over a two-seat row, or over half of a 3-seat center section, comes pretty much all the way to the aisle. It cannot be used while standing out of the aisle, as a compartment over a three-seat row can be. (Granted, not everyone steps into the row to stow their stuff.) This means more delays in boarding. I don't know if having two aisles is enough to offset this. If they're both blocked, as they often would be, nobody can move.
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Originally Posted by jgsx View Post
I assure you that the 787 is not certified yet.
Correct - Boeing is hoping to attain certification by the middle of 2011.
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One selling feature of the twin aisle may be faster boarding and disembarkation => potentially-faster turnaround. Also good for pax: Think about it the next time you're at the back of a 753 or 321 and have a tight connection.
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Originally Posted by SJCFlyerLG View Post
Correct - Boeing is hoping to attain certification by the middle of 2011.
Yup. That's what wikipedia says.
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