Consolidated "Breast Feed or Not" Discussion Thread [Merged]
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Originally Posted by Analise
If those who offer a different opinion are cast of as "ignorant", then this really isn't a serious question meant for an open dialogue. Name-calling has already taken place.
Swiss Julie: It's been 15 years since I've nursed, but I never had anyone say anything to me in restaurants, on planes, at parks, schools, anywhere. I have girlfriends who are breastfeeding now and I have not seen any negative reaction when we've been in public settings. Both the US and Canada are very large countries though so reactions can and will certainly vary. Some states have passed laws that make it illegal to stop a woman from nursing her child in public, others have rejected them. There are always scattered reports from various places (most recently out of Kansas and Iowa) of women refused service or told to leave an establishment if they're nursing their child.
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Originally Posted by letiole
I'm confused by your response. The OP didn't ask for an open dialogue, she asked for experiences with how people react to breast feeding in two countries. Let's keep this on track.
I assume that all threads are meant to be a place of open dialogue and I assumed that the OP didn't want this to be a place in which people who offer differing opinions are labeled as "ignorant". I should think that the best in people, should I not?
Keeping on track is focusing on breast feeding; not name calling. ^
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She asked how people react in general to breastfeeding in public. She wants to know what to expect when coming to the US and Canada. I don't think it's difficult to see that she's looking for information and not a debate on whether or not FTers approve/disapprove of breastfeeding in public.
If you or anyone else wishes to start a thread debating the issue, go for it, but let's not derail this one.
If you or anyone else wishes to start a thread debating the issue, go for it, but let's not derail this one.
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many thanks for the information and opinions - i guess i just wanted to be a little more clued about attitude than i am currently. everyone is entilted to their own opinion - i will be discrete but i won't let it stop me doing what's best for my baby - as with most things in life a little consideration for others goes a long way to making life pleasant for all!!
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Originally Posted by letiole
She asked how people react in general to breastfeeding in public. She wants to know what to expect when coming to the US and Canada. I don't think it's difficult to see that she's looking for information and not a debate on whether or not FTers approve/disapprove of breastfeeding in public.
My SIL who breastfed for a year felt very uncomfortable that men would stare at her. She could care less about women but it was the men that she felt as though they wanted a free peep show. Maybe that's an American male trait; I don't know. I wouldn't want anyone staring at me.
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i am not married and have no children and no breasts. but please do not breast feed in public. i do not want to be at the grocery store and walk past some lady breast feeding her child. i dont want to be at a clothing store and go in the door and walk past a woman breastfeeding in the entry way. there is a time and place for everything. i understand that certain fuctions are uncontrolable when pregnant. but please not everyone thinks public breast feeding is acceptable. my .02 worth from a guys view.
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Originally Posted by JS
There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion. However, that doesn't change the fact that being anti-breastfeeding is ignorant.
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Originally Posted by Analise
That's what I said which is why I thought the "ignorant" label veered from the OP's intent. No need for that.
My SIL who breastfed for a year felt very uncomfortable that men would stare at her. She could care less about women but it was the men that she felt as though they wanted a free peep show. Maybe that's an American male trait; I don't know. I wouldn't want anyone staring at me.
My SIL who breastfed for a year felt very uncomfortable that men would stare at her. She could care less about women but it was the men that she felt as though they wanted a free peep show. Maybe that's an American male trait; I don't know. I wouldn't want anyone staring at me.
You should breastfeed when the baby is hungry, but unfortunately we do have our share of ignorant people that get offended.
My wife was not able to breastfeed, so I'm can't offer any personal experiences, but it doesn't sound pretty, given how upset some people can get by the mere presence of a baby.
My wife was not able to breastfeed, so I'm can't offer any personal experiences, but it doesn't sound pretty, given how upset some people can get by the mere presence of a baby.
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Originally Posted by Analise
That's what I said which is why I thought the "ignorant" label veered from the OP's intent. No need for that.
My SIL who breastfed for a year felt very uncomfortable that men would stare at her. She could care less about women but it was the men that she felt as though they wanted a free peep show. Maybe that's an American male trait; I don't know. I wouldn't want anyone staring at me.
My SIL who breastfed for a year felt very uncomfortable that men would stare at her. She could care less about women but it was the men that she felt as though they wanted a free peep show. Maybe that's an American male trait; I don't know. I wouldn't want anyone staring at me.
I don't see it as "name calling" when someone refers those who don't know that there are laws in place that protect women while breastfeeding in public as being ignorant. Ignorant simply means not aware of or not knowledgable.
In any event, it looks like the OP is happy to see this thread contain individual opinions about breastfeeding in public. So my apologies for trying to keep it to general attitudes and experiences with nursing in public.
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Originally Posted by Analise
JS, you constantly reinforce my points. Merci beaucoup.
What is your point? I honestly don't know what it is.
BTW, it sure would be nice if you contributed to the topic rather than nitpicking other posters without even explaining what your issue is with them. What a novel concept.
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Originally Posted by grbflyer
i am not married and have no children and no breasts. but please do not breast feed in public. i do not want to be at the grocery store and walk past some lady breast feeding her child. i dont want to be at a clothing store and go in the door and walk past a woman breastfeeding in the entry way. there is a time and place for everything. i understand that certain fuctions are uncontrolable when pregnant. but please not everyone thinks public breast feeding is acceptable. my .02 worth from a guys view.
Um, so if one is travelling with a small child and the child is hungry, what should they do? It is difficult to explain to a 3 month old that you can't feed them now because someone might be offended.
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there is a time and place for everything...
And BTW, swiss julie, this is a perfect example of regional variations in attitude. The middle of the country and South tend to be anti-public feeding, the coasts and major citites tend to be ok with it. Oddly enough, and not to start a political debate, but it sees to coincide with Republican/Democrat.
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Originally Posted by kef0913
And BTW, swiss julie, this is a perfect example of regional variations in attitude. The middle of the country and South tend to be anti-public feeding, the coasts and major citites tend to be ok with it. Oddly enough, and not to start a political debate, but it sees to coincide with Republican/Democrat.
FWIW, I'm a long-time Republican. I've lived (among other places) in NYC, DC, CA, FLA, IL, and TX and am baffled at how once can be "offended" by the presence of a breastfeeding infant.
IME, ignorant people live everywhere. As do tolerant people.
BTW, you do know that GWB received millions of votes here in CA, right? More than in any other state after TX.
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Originally Posted by kef0913
And BTW, swiss julie, this is a perfect example of regional variations in attitude. The middle of the country and South tend to be anti-public feeding, the coasts and major citites tend to be ok with it. Oddly enough, and not to start a political debate, but it sees to coincide with Republican/Democrat.
Young men (I'd guess 17 to 30) seem to be freaked out by seeing breasts used for something other than pleasure - I got that response maybe 6 or 8 times - one guy would notice me, nudge his buddy, and then the 2 of them would stare in horror for moment. Their problem, not mine. Men old enough to be fathers generally would ignore me, if they even noticed, and the grandpa types usually wanted to hold the baby. Women of all ages either ignored it or offered advice.
I'm sure others on this board had different experiences, but that was mine. Oh, and nobody in an official capacity (waiter, store employee, whatever) ever said a word about it.
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Originally Posted by catflyer
Are you taking issue with breastfeeding (if so, why?) or with calling those who don't understand it ignorant (would "uninformed" or "intolerant"? be a more acceptable term?)
This is my take on it, catflyer. As for Swiss Julie's question, I think you'll find the same mixed reaction here as you do in the UK. But by and large, nobody will say anything to you. Do you get comments in the UK?