Flying J with lap infants

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Old Jan 11, 18, 1:22 pm
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Flying J with lap infants

Hey guys,

Looking for some advice on an upcoming trip, my wife and I are taking the two kids to Europe. Kids will be 23 months and 11 months when we fly. All of our flights are in J as we thought it would be more comfortable for us to have more space.
Do any of you who have flown J with a lap infant before have any advice you can pass on that made your trip easier? Or something you learned that you would do differently next time? Does flying J vs Y make you do anything differently?
A couple things I'm concerned about are eating, is there enough room with table setup for the kids to be on our laps? Also, nap time, how do you handle this on the long transatlantic flights? Some people have said to ask the FA if they can make a bed for you in an empty J seat, that seems like a smart move, what if that isn't an option?
Obviously we will deal with whatever we have to but if any of you have done this before we would appreciate any tips or advice.

Thank you for your help

Note: I'm not looking to debate "kids in premium cabins" or "buy your kids their own seat"
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Old Jan 12, 18, 4:29 am
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We've flown (Delta) J a bit over a year ago with one lap child and one child on a sear. Easy with one, as the other parent has free knees. I would probably avoid having each a lap child, and probably book a seat for the 23 months old child (who would be on the laps during take off or landing). This would make your life much easier.
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Old Jan 16, 18, 9:41 am
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We flew SQ to Japan last year with our then 20 month old. For me what was most important, regardless of whether Y or J is to babywear and bring a carrier. Once your LO falls asleep in the carrier, I put him to lie down on the seat in a side-lying position with me (I'm the mum). SQ's J seats are very wide in a 1-2-1 configuration. Obviously whether this works for you depends on whether the seat is wide enough, but otherwise, I will just cradle my LO and put my seat into a cradle positon too (more comfortable than a fully flat bed, if I have to hold onto my child).
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Old Jan 16, 18, 9:53 am
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With two parents and one kid, this works fine. There's generally enough space on the armrests between the seats to balance food so that you can manage meals with one tray table and one kid sleeping. Two kids changes the equation. If this were me, I'd book 3 economy class seats.

If that's not an option, will you have access to bassinets? You may have to trade off meals, with one parent taking both kids while the other eats, then trading off.

How do you handle nap time? You let the child fall asleep while they are in your lap. Not much more you can do.
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Old Jan 17, 18, 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by yno View Post
We've flown (Delta) J a bit over a year ago with one lap child and one child on a sear. Easy with one, as the other parent has free knees. I would probably avoid having each a lap child, and probably book a seat for the 23 months old child (who would be on the laps during take off or landing). This would make your life much easier.
Thanks for responding. We have already booked the flights on points and there is no more availability for us to add our oldest. We will just have to wing it and do our best.

Originally Posted by SQ319 View Post
We flew SQ to Japan last year with our then 20 month old. For me what was most important, regardless of whether Y or J is to babywear and bring a carrier. Once your LO falls asleep in the carrier, I put him to lie down on the seat in a side-lying position with me (I'm the mum). SQ's J seats are very wide in a 1-2-1 configuration. Obviously whether this works for you depends on whether the seat is wide enough, but otherwise, I will just cradle my LO and put my seat into a cradle positon too (more comfortable than a fully flat bed, if I have to hold onto my child).
Wearing the baby is a really good idea. Thanks, we will be bringing our carrier for the trip but I guess now we will wear it on the plane. Thanks for the advice.

Originally Posted by Anna Phor View Post
With two parents and one kid, this works fine. There's generally enough space on the armrests between the seats to balance food so that you can manage meals with one tray table and one kid sleeping. Two kids changes the equation. If this were me, I'd book 3 economy class seats.

If that's not an option, will you have access to bassinets? You may have to trade off meals, with one parent taking both kids while the other eats, then trading off.

How do you handle nap time? You let the child fall asleep while they are in your lap. Not much more you can do.
Thanks for your help. Flights are already booked and I don't think we can get our kid our own seat now since we booked on points and availability is lacking. Apparently we won't have access to bassinets because they said our youngest will be too old.
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Old Jan 18, 18, 1:17 am
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Have flown with an infant in long-haul J 8 times now -- LAX-BKK / BKK-ICN-NRT-LAX at 11 months; LAX-LHR-LED / BRU-FRA-LAX at 19 months; and LAX-ATL-FCO / FCO-CDG-LAX at 23 months with our first child and LAX-HND / HND-LAX at 12 months this past summer with our second.

A lot of your experience will depend on who you are flying and the seat/aisle configuration. Of the 8 long-haul segments we have had an empty seat next to us twice, so that can be a nice option if there. If you have a CARES harness bring that just in case for the older one. But I would not bank on it.

Our most recent flights were on Delta 777s which have a 1-2-1 configuration. Those herringbone style seats are actually pretty narrow, which would have been an issue with the baby -- but we choose the second section of J and the last row of seats which have this extra stowage space in addition to the normal seat layout -- so with three seats we effectively had a small section to ourselves - that allowed for some walking down the aisle without bothering anyone else. Plus on the flight there our cabin was pretty empty so we had a whole side of the J cabin to ourselves -- I probably spent an hour sitting with my 12 month old in the aisle while he took the water bottle out of the holder, dropped it on the floor, and then put it back in. Having that space was nice. Try to find a recent Youtube video with your exact flight/plane configuration and see if any seats have any extra space vs. what you might expect from the airline seat maps or even seat guru (i.e. on seat guru these are just labeled regular DeltaOne seats - no indication of the extra space).

Going back to the water bottle -- definitely have a plan/bring some things in case you need to distract them. No matter how good they are, on a flight that long there will probably be a period of restlessness. The water bottle got me by on the flight mentioned above. On that first Thai flight it was playing with the TV remote for an hour in the middle of the night. On our recent LAX-DFW-SJU with the now 18 month old as a lap infant in domestic F it was an ipad and Duck Duck Moose Old McDonald that did the trick.

We bring our Luna Lullaby pillow onboard - that is mostly how we handle sleep. For the 11 month old it should be big enough to have them rest on it and let you have one, if not both hands free. Not sure about the 23 month old. We also bring the Baby Bjorn in our carry-on as I put the baby in that to board since we fold up the stroller and put that in a gate check bag -- the carrier lets me have both hands free to drag the stroller to the door and still pull my carry-on. Since we have the carrier with us, I have used it a couple times in flight to help get the baby to sleep and once to even be able to eat (ate while standing up)!

Speaking of food - eating is difficult. If sleeping usually not enough room to get the tray out. If awake there is the risk of pulling/knocking things over. Even with my wife and now my older son having their own space and able to hand things to me, I usually have the flight attendant just bring me each thing one at a time and eat one-handed.

Hopefully the two infant in arms 10% fare tickets did not set you back too much (or you are flying AC!)

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Old Jan 18, 18, 8:30 pm
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Try to book those with wider seats - sq was prob the best. Expect to stay awake - at least one of you will have to.. ipad or ife for the older, the younger can be tricky if he stays awake...
basically you are in survival mode but still j is usually better than even 3 seats in coach..
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Old Jan 7, 19, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by ennsy View Post
Hey guys,

Looking for some advice on an upcoming trip, my wife and I are taking the two kids to Europe. Kids will be 23 months and 11 months when we fly. All of our flights are in J as we thought it would be more comfortable for us to have more space.
Do any of you who have flown J with a lap infant before have any advice you can pass on that made your trip easier? Or something you learned that you would do differently next time? Does flying J vs Y make you do anything differently?
A couple things I'm concerned about are eating, is there enough room with table setup for the kids to be on our laps? Also, nap time, how do you handle this on the long transatlantic flights? Some people have said to ask the FA if they can make a bed for you in an empty J seat, that seems like a smart move, what if that isn't an option?
Obviously we will deal with whatever we have to but if any of you have done this before we would appreciate any tips or advice.

Thank you for your help

Note: I'm not looking to debate "kids in premium cabins" or "buy your kids their own seat"
We did a whole mRTW with my 23m boy. It went great, although sleeping wasn't very comfortable for the wife, as he sleeps with her.

You have 2, and i imagine the younger one will sleep in the bassinet. You have to then make sure you have the right seats for this. Also, the older one will probably sleep with one of you.

Bring plenty of activities for them. Ours likes stickers, so that was a huge distraction, specially on the long flights. We had 2 10h flights and another 13h.

It's great that you are going with them, it gets them used to it, as well as you.

Plus it is the perfect timing before you have to spend more on extra tickets. We also travelled when mine was 23m. Now, for our next trip i got 3 J tickets. A ton more expensive.

If you have any questions don't hesitate!
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Old Jan 10, 19, 9:20 pm
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It may be useful to be strategic about your seats. Recently flew J on CX on a A359 with wife and two young children (3.5 y/o & 18 months). We picked 3 seats on one-side of the rear mini-cabin and CX typically blocks the 4th seat until check-in due to proximity to the lavatory. Ultimately, we were able to use all four seats on two of the legs.

Completely understand this is a very specific situation, however it may be worth watching the seat maps for your itinerary.
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Old Jan 11, 19, 8:47 am
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Saw a lap kid go flying onver the atlantic last week. Plane hit air pocket and dropped and kid bounced off the roof. No apparent damage
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Old Jan 11, 19, 12:02 pm
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Saw a lap kid go flying onver the atlantic last week. Plane hit air pocket and dropped and kid bounced off the roof. No apparent damage
No damage to the plane. What about the poor kid ?
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