Service Charge for Hwy 407 near Toronto?
#1
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Service Charge for Hwy 407 near Toronto?
Can anyone confirm how much Thrifty adds to the toll as a service charge if I take my rental on the 407?
Thanks!
Thanks!
#2
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Looks like it's $25.00
2. Electronic toll by-pass option: In a few cities, we offer an option to purchase an electronic toll bypass service for a per/day charge that allows the driver to bypass all toll booths and avoid electronic toll charges on all the toll roads in the city or state, as applicable; and, as many times a day as necessary. If you decline to purchase the toll bypass option, you will pay us for all unpaid toll road violations (including violations captured by camera) charged by the toll authority plus a $25.00 administrative fee per violation. If you have a personal transponder or account, it may not transfer to the rental vehicle and you will be charged a toll violation. Please be advised that some toll roads are managed electronically and have no manned booths. GPS units rented from us can be programmed to avoid toll roads.
2. Electronic toll by-pass option: In a few cities, we offer an option to purchase an electronic toll bypass service for a per/day charge that allows the driver to bypass all toll booths and avoid electronic toll charges on all the toll roads in the city or state, as applicable; and, as many times a day as necessary. If you decline to purchase the toll bypass option, you will pay us for all unpaid toll road violations (including violations captured by camera) charged by the toll authority plus a $25.00 administrative fee per violation. If you have a personal transponder or account, it may not transfer to the rental vehicle and you will be charged a toll violation. Please be advised that some toll roads are managed electronically and have no manned booths. GPS units rented from us can be programmed to avoid toll roads.
#3
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This cashless thing stinks. I just got back from Denver on 407 and it's $25 per violation, so if you get off the highway to get water or gas and back on, it's twice. I had to call afterwards to add this pre-paid option and they charged me $51 in total for 4 days, I don't know how it is calculated.
This is my only bad experience with Thrifty, I have had good experience so far.
This is my only bad experience with Thrifty, I have had good experience so far.
#4
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When I used to rent without a transponder I was only charged the admin fee once. Driving on the highway without a valid transponder isn't considered a "violation" like, say, using the I-Pass lane on the Illinois tollway (nearest example I could think of). I just means you'll pay the video toll charge each time you get on, which is "only" $3.65 per trip. The admin fee is meant to cover costs associated with getting the bill to you, as they bill comes to Thrifty as the registered owner of the vehicle. Costs like staff time researching who was in which car at what time, and mailing you a copy of the invoice.
$25 is a bit steep imho, but it is only there to recoup costs, or at least should be. And to be clear, it should only be charged once because that fee is generated by Thrifty and has nothing to do with 407 ETR.
For example:
Thrifty receives a bill with $18 worth of video and toll charges to a vehicle you were renting at the time.
Thrifty should be charging $46.25 to your credit card: $25 admin fee (plus 13% sales tax) and the $18 they paid to 407ETR on your behalf.
$25 is a bit steep imho, but it is only there to recoup costs, or at least should be. And to be clear, it should only be charged once because that fee is generated by Thrifty and has nothing to do with 407 ETR.
For example:
Thrifty receives a bill with $18 worth of video and toll charges to a vehicle you were renting at the time.
Thrifty should be charging $46.25 to your credit card: $25 admin fee (plus 13% sales tax) and the $18 they paid to 407ETR on your behalf.
#5
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If the former, then yes, Thrifty should (and definitely should if they aren't) charge a single fee.
If the latter, then each toll would require a separate look-up and a ton of extra labor by Thrifty's accounting department, and the $25 for each incident would be (somewhat) legitimate.
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You Don't Have To Put Up With It
Rented from Enterprise in Toronto last week. Their fee was going to be something much more nominal based on actual use, and even at that the agent pointed out where the 407 was, said all the locals avoided it, pointed out the alternative, and suggested it wasn't worth the toll except at the height of rush hour. Let's just say I was a Thrifty regular for years and put up all the nagging little Dollar/Thrifty issues, but somewhere finally there were too many in a row.
#7
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At a Discount car rental branch I know of, they make you initial on the contract that you will not drive on the 407.
#8
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Rented from Enterprise in Toronto last week. Their fee was going to be something much more nominal based on actual use, and even at that the agent pointed out where the 407 was, said all the locals avoided it, pointed out the alternative, and suggested it wasn't worth the toll except at the height of rush hour. Let's just say I was a Thrifty regular for years and put up all the nagging little Dollar/Thrifty issues, but somewhere finally there were too many in a row.
Not to excuse Thrifty / Dollar here, but the tolls for rental cars on the 407 really are ridiculous. Thanks for the tip about Enterprise. I think that's a case of one particularly good practice at Enterprise, because every other 407 pricing I've had in Toronto sounds like your experience at Thrifty.
#9
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I recall $50-something for a 20-second trip my gf made a little while ago. Can't confirm the EXACT amount, but I remember there was a service charge that was the equivalent of the billing (which includes ANOTHER service charge).
#10
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I rented at Enterprise last week.
Enterprise told me they charge a $10 fee, plus whatever actual billing they get for tolls. I think that's as good as you'll get.
Enterprise told me they charge a $10 fee, plus whatever actual billing they get for tolls. I think that's as good as you'll get.
#11
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When I bought a car here in 2005 I got a transponder and ended up keeping it even after I took my car back to BC. It costs $21/year and means you don't pay the nearly $4 per trip "video toll charge" and the rental agency will never know you used the freeway, therefore no admin fees. The 407ETR company does caution against the use of transponders in rentals car, since if the overhead gantry doesn't read the signal properly it will default to taking a picture of the rear plate. However, in 6+ years of renting in Toronto I've yet to receive a bill from any rental agency when using my own transponder.