Foreigner driving in Thailand using friend's car
I (UK citizen) will be visiting a friend (Thai citizen) in Thailand in Decemeber. My friend has a car and we plan to drive to visit places out the city, we are staying in Nonthaburi. So that my friend does not do all the driving I hope to share the driving equally (e.g. since I am the foreigner my friend could drive in the towns/cities and I drive on the long boring motorways). I have a full UK driving licence since 2003 and have no penalty points or other driving notices on it. I have read that I will need an International Driving Permit (IDP) to suppliment my UK driving licence and I can get that from my local UK Post Office about two weeks before travelling. Fortunately, in Thailand they drive on the left hand side of the road, the same as in the UK. I have only ever driven overseas in Spain and New Zealand using car rentals.
For those with the knowledge: 1. Is this possible? 2. What is the best options for car insurance? 3. Is there a Thai Highway Code (similar to the UK Highway Code, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Highway_Code) I can read before I depart to give myself prior knoweldge of the rules of the road. 4. Anything I have forgotten to ask. Thanks |
1. Yes
2. Your friend has insurance 3. 5-5-5 4. Make sure your legal affairs are settled You should be fine until you aren't. |
I don't know the going rate, but make sure you have a bunch of 100 baht (500?) notes on you while driving.
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Originally Posted by CrazyInteg
(Post 31493281)
I don't know the going rate, but make sure you have a bunch of 100 baht (500?) notes on you while driving.
To the OP I don't think you really need an International Driving Permit, I've never been asked for one. The first few times I hired a car, it was from Thai places. When I booked a car at Avis, I decided to get an IDP any just in case, only £5, I think. Neither Avis or Budget have asked to see it. I got mine from the Post Office opposite Kings Cross Station in London on my way to Heathrow. Beware, even highways are NOTHING like driving on our A1 or M1 etc. or any dual carriageway, they can still be challenging and need your wits about you. No lane discipline, tailgating, pulling in front of you, slow traffic in any lane, fast traffic in any lane, pedestrians. I enjoy the challenge of driving in Thailand, especially Bangkok. Its not for the faint hearted, you need to be confident, aware and relaxed. |
Originally Posted by manymany
(Post 31494835)
To the OP
I don't think you really need an International Driving Permit, I've never been asked for one. Yes, I've done it both ways myself, but it's really silly not to just get it. (I have to do it by mail with AAA in Honolulu, so it's a bit of a PITA, but not really.) -David |
Originally Posted by transpac
(Post 31492791)
3. 5-5-5
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Originally Posted by LIH Prem
(Post 31494979)
According to the law you need one. Despite the fact that you never had to show yours, you could have problems if asked to produce it and you don't have it. It's trivial to get one, so why not carry it?
Yes, I've done it both ways myself, but it's really silly not to just get it. (I have to do it by mail with AAA in Honolulu, so it's a bit of a PITA, but not really.) -David |
Thanks for the replies.
I will get a IDP as it is cheap. So, no Highway Code. What is the advice for car insurance? Can it be added to an annual travel insurance policy? |
Originally Posted by siw
(Post 31496672)
Thanks for the replies.
I will get a IDP as it is cheap. So, no Highway Code. What is the advice for car insurance? Can it be added to an annual travel insurance policy? The highways shouldn't be too bad though. |
I'd want more reassurance in this case than just "friend has insurance for the car." Are you sure it's adequate and covers other drivers, including foreigners or drivers without a local license? A foreigner believed to have deep pockets could be a very tempting target. Don't even think of trying this without the required international license (about $10 and a brief visit to my local AAA office for me, not a big deal at all). |
There is the Highway code that is Official and the Highway code that is used. The driver with the high end car has the right of way. Also the bigger the vehicle the reluctance to give way. Best way is to keep to your lane and never trust the other driver or the motorcycle rider to follow the rules or for that matter any rules. It is the law of the jungle. You are going along according to the speed limit and suddenly out of nowhere you see a high end car undertake you on the inside and actually on the emergency stop way on the highway. So please be careful of everything and anything.
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Car insurance here covers damage to the car. It covers any driver. I guess a foreigner could be excluded, no experience here as I've never had an accident, or been stopped by RTP. Occasionally they wave cars through a road station, but again, never been stopped or had to display my DL.
Everything else gets negotiated, in the event of an accident. Assuming you survive the accident, and the resulting angry crowd attempting to beat you to death (this why most Thais do a runner), and the pick-up truck ride to the hospital, you'll probably have to fork out hundreds of thousands of baht to the police, and anyone else nearby. No level of insurance will cover everything. Pretty much just repairs to your own car. I think the IDP is "legal" here, but of course, that is subject to interpretation by the police in any given instance. Many folks say their home country DL is more likely to be acceptable. There may be some caveats re: long-term usage when one should probably get a local license. The fact that you can get an IDP at a post office, or AAA, for a spot of cash doesn't exactly instill confidence. I don't think you can convert an IDP to a Thai DL, but you can convert some country's DLs. I was able to get Thai DLs based on my U.S. State DL. Yes, I imagine there is a driving code, maybe more than one even? It is hardly relevant. You can root around in the DLT (Department of Land Transportation, part of the Ministry of Transport) site for something. http://thailaws.com/law/t_laws/tlaw0140_5.pdf When I renewed my car and motorcycle licenses recently we had to watch a one + hour video. In this video, the drivers did not wear seatbelts, and it mostly dealt with courtesy. Wai to the other driver, etc. Thais can buy a license quite cheaply. Not so long ago people got lifetime licenses. The number one rule: Don't hit anything or anyone. Other advisories... Avoid driving at night Avoid driving in inclement weather Watch out for motorbikes passing on the left, right, approaching on the left and over the top. On divided highways heed the upcoming U-Turn signs, and slow. A tandem trailer, or farm jitney, could be cutting across all three lanes. Thais love to arrive at the narrowest part of a road simultaneously, and odd coordination of multiple motorbikes, cars, trucks, buses and trains. Approach level RR crossings carefully Driving in Bangkok is hardly challenging, traffic moves at what, 6 Kph? |
Originally Posted by transpac
(Post 31499417)
Car insurance here covers damage to the car. It covers any driver. I guess a foreigner could be excluded, no experience here as I've never had an accident, or been stopped by RTP. Occasionally they wave cars through a road station, but again, never been stopped or had to display my DL.
Everything else gets negotiated, in the event of an accident. Assuming you survive the accident, and the resulting angry crowd attempting to beat you to death (this why most Thais do a runner), and the pick-up truck ride to the hospital, you'll probably have to fork out hundreds of thousands of baht to the police, and anyone else nearby. No level of insurance will cover everything. Pretty much just repairs to your own car. I think the IDP is "legal" here, but of course, that is subject to interpretation by the police in any given instance. Many folks say their home country DL is more likely to be acceptable. There may be some caveats re: long-term usage when one should probably get a local license. The fact that you can get an IDP at a post office, or AAA, for a spot of cash doesn't exactly instill confidence. I don't think you can convert an IDP to a Thai DL, but you can convert some country's DLs. I was able to get Thai DLs based on my U.S. State DL. Yes, I imagine there is a driving code, maybe more than one even? It is hardly relevant. You can root around in the DLT (Department of Land Transportation, part of the Ministry of Transport) site for something. http://thailaws.com/law/t_laws/tlaw0140_5.pdf When I renewed my car and motorcycle licenses recently we had to watch a one + hour video. In this video, the drivers did not wear seatbelts, and it mostly dealt with courtesy. Wai to the other driver, etc. Thais can buy a license quite cheaply. Not so long ago people got lifetime licenses. The number one rule: Don't hit anything or anyone. Other advisories... Avoid driving at night Avoid driving in inclement weather Watch out for motorbikes passing on the left, right, approaching on the left and over the top. On divided highways heed the upcoming U-Turn signs, and slow. A tandem trailer, or farm jitney, could be cutting across all three lanes. Thais love to arrive at the narrowest part of a road simultaneously, and odd coordination of multiple motorbikes, cars, trucks, buses and trains. Approach level RR crossings carefully Driving in Bangkok is hardly challenging, traffic moves at what, 6 Kph? |
The best advice I received about driving in Thailand that has served me well for the last 15 years + driving there is:
1. 100% defensive driving at all times, anticipate that every car/bike/truck will do something unexpected. 2. As a foreigner, you will be "wrong" in any accident that occurs. It doesn't matter if you are not at fault.....you will be responsible. |
Originally Posted by Kamalaasaa
(Post 31495056)
5-5-5 :D :D :D |
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