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Bangkok Airways racial profiling & harassment at boarding gate

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Old Mar 25, 19, 8:38 pm
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I have very good connections with PG. I will try to get some information on this.
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Old Mar 26, 19, 5:47 pm
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Notwithstanding what I said before, I do feel bad for you that you feel like you've been mistreated and yes, it's important to ensure that you get to the bottom of this.

But I have been re-reading this and it did make me laugh ....

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I asked him why I was treated with an interrogation.
The question is, why did you perceive it to be an interrogation?
If an official at an airport is asking you questions you need to answer them all, no matter how stupid they might seem to you.

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Thus, I claimed my legitimate rights and demanded to see an evidence that Pakistan was on a watch list
Where in Thai law does it state that they require you to do this?

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They even made me the very last passenger to get on board. At the same time, there were 2 more passengers from Pakistan who were held back like myself. It was hard not to think of the entire incident not as an act of extreme prejudices.

Wow! I wouldn't mind being the last passenger to board. Saves me staying seated in that metal tube. In all seriousness, you either want to be the first (so you can put your luggage in the overhead bins) or the last to board (so they store it in the hold for free)

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I was telling this happening as to exhibiting the strange behavior of these 2 officials of Bangkok Airways, which I am not sure stemming from personal prejudices, ignorance of international practices, or an excessed sense of self-importance.
Self importance? Have you ever experienced the TSA? Wow! They really know how to ruin your day

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I demand no compensation from Bangkok Airways. However, if the airline’s executives are of decency and want to be accountable for, I will be glad to meet up with the very top executive along with these 2 officials, so we can lay ground for the future that no visitor will be mistreated in such a way ever again.
I understand you're upset but thinking the very top executive is going to meet you over this is, like you said before "excessed sense of self-importance"
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Old Mar 26, 19, 8:50 pm
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Originally Posted by SQTraveller View Post
Notwithstanding what I said before, I do feel bad for you that you feel like you've been mistreated and yes, it's important to ensure that you get to the bottom of this.
It's not actually the OP's own experience.

As noted : business contact of mine in his late 60s asked me to report his (and other passengers’) recent bad experience
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But I have been re-reading this and it did make me laugh ....

I understand you're upset but thinking the very top executive is going to meet you over this is, like you said before "excessed sense of self-importance"
Agreed on that.

There's certainly a sense of DYKWIA coming through the narration.
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Old Mar 26, 19, 11:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Plato90s View Post
It's not actually the OP's own experience.

As noted : business contact of mine in his late 60s asked me to report his (and other passengers’) recent bad experience

Ah yes. For some reason I had missed that!
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Old May 4, 19, 4:59 am
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And what’s the reason for it?
Why do the airline staff do it, rather than immigration officials?
Immigration of country A doesn't care about your eligibility to enter country B. The carrier does care, because they're liable.

My docs were checked at the gate in different locations, mainly when transiting in said location to China on TWOV. Per se nothing racial or profiling.
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Old May 5, 19, 1:55 am
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And what’s the reason for it?
Why do the airline staff do it, rather than immigration officials?
There's a current thread floating around, which describe how a US passport holder was not admitted to Indonesia, and the airline that brought him there had to fly him out AND got fined.

Usually airlines are more vigilant, but THAT is why the inspect documents.

Immigration officials at the originating airport have no interest at all in the validity of a passenger's documentation at any subsequent stop
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Old May 6, 19, 1:55 am
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I have very good connections with PG. I will try to get some information on this.
How good were your connections? Did they come up with anything?
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Old May 6, 19, 9:57 am
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I used to do document check for various airlines as a hired contractor. Unfortunately it can be quite racially focused. Depending on route, certain profiles present a much higher risk. Given the three hour window of check in boarding, one can't question every pax the same amount and one has to look for those passengers that fit certain profiles and concentrate on them.

The pax in question was called Somchai. This is a Thai name. Yet had a Pakistani passport. If the pax looked very Thai? , spoke Thai? and had a Thai name and was travelling out of BKK, a profiler might wonder why he had a Pakistani passport. I doubt the Profilers at BKK meet many Thais with Pakistani passports.

The airlines generally do ask profilers to interrogate everyone to same degree as it is not right that certain groups get targeted more than others. But if you have 360 pax to check in three hours if you devote 30 secs to each pax and one pax presents a passport and visa which needs to be thoroughly checked (perhaps by calling a rep from the country that issued the visa) you won't process all the pax in time.

Hence, depending on the route some profiles glide through whilst others are interrogated more.
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Old May 8, 19, 8:32 am
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The information I got was the same as Carguiro mentioned. Anything that flags up is checked manually. Eventually he was boarded too and it is part of parcel of flying these days. Questions will be asked from everyone. I have been asked many times too why I was going to a certain place and then flying from a different airport. Best be honest and tell them. I would not say it is racially profiled especially in Asia. They have much more knowledge than in USA or Europe. In Asia it is profiled by nationality and the route they are flying.
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Old May 10, 19, 9:39 am
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Further to my earlier post the hold up was the lack of documentations and they did have to get in touch with Phon Then before they got the clearance to board him the flight. It is going to happen again to anyone in the same circumstances if they do not have the proper documentations in this case letter of invitations and support in Cambodia etc.
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