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BF263533 Mar 9, 2019 3:38 am

Does Vietnam Threaten THAI Air as the Major Hub Country in the Region?
 
Vietnamese Airlines Have Been Cleared to Fly to the United States

https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/v...ed-states.html

BinSabai Mar 9, 2019 5:17 am

flights to USA by its home-airline is not the main criteria for a major hub in SEA

SKT-DK Mar 9, 2019 5:22 am


Originally Posted by BinSabai (Post 30865428)
flights to USA by its home-airline is not the main criteria for a major hub in SEA

Of course it is! Didn’t you know that the US is the centre of the universe and if you have no direct flights there you are doomed? (Sarcasm may occur) :rolleyes:

ajeleonard Mar 9, 2019 5:51 am

No, flights to the U.S. are nearly irrelevant for determining the location of the primary air hub in Indochina

Kacee Mar 9, 2019 3:08 pm

SIN is the major hub in SE Asia. BKK is second, KUL is third.

RTWFF Mar 9, 2019 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 30867063)
SIN is the major hub in SE Asia. BKK is second, KUL is third.

The common factor for all three countries is the exemption from needing a visa for short stays. The Chinese have woken up to this and now have visa-free entry for shorter periods at their main hubs. Vietnam still requires that everyone has a visa AFAIK

s0ssos Mar 9, 2019 3:35 pm


Originally Posted by RTWFF (Post 30867096)
The common factor for all three countries is the exemption from needing a visa for short stays. The Chinese have woken up to this and now have visa-free entry for shorter periods at their main hubs. Vietnam still requires that everyone has a visa AFAIK

Many countries don't need a visa for Vietnam.
Many countries still need a visa for Thailand.

China doesn't just have a visa-free entry, it has a stopover up to a week without visa. It isn't simply for transfers.

In terms of painless transfer, I cannot imagine any other place as painless (and actually fun) as SIN

chris63 Mar 13, 2019 12:55 am

[QUOTE=s0ssos;30867127

In terms of painless transfer, I cannot imagine any other place as painless (and actually fun) as SIN[/QUOTE]

Its a great airport but my recent transfer flights FROM BKK both on TG & SQ have required transfer security, maybe SIN is no longer trusting BKK security screening ?

SKT-DK Mar 13, 2019 1:04 am


Originally Posted by chris63 (Post 30880575)


Its a great airport but my recent transfer flights FROM BKK both on TG & SQ have required transfer security, maybe SIN is no longer trusting BKK security screening ?

Does SIN not have security screening at all gates (except for T4), making it independent of connecting flight origin?

LHR/MEL/Europe FF Mar 13, 2019 1:20 am


Originally Posted by RTWFF (Post 30867096)
The common factor for all three countries is the exemption from needing a visa for short stays. The Chinese have woken up to this and now have visa-free entry for shorter periods at their main hubs. Vietnam still requires that everyone has a visa AFAIK

Exactly my thought. Any country that requires a visa, visa on arrival, or even pre-registration of some sort, is going to be at a significant disadvantage as a hub.

BinSabai Mar 13, 2019 1:40 am


Originally Posted by chris63 (Post 30880575)
Its a great airport but my recent transfer flights FROM BKK both on TG & SQ have required transfer security, maybe SIN is no longer trusting BKK security screening ?

everybody in transit at SIN has to go through security. the security is in front of the departure gate
the security check on arrival, that is sometimes applied in SIN has nothing to do with transit as also passengers with final destination SIN have to pass... I guess it is quite random and on my flights from BKK on TG it was applied on less than one in 20 flights...

chris63 Mar 13, 2019 2:55 am


Originally Posted by SKT-DK (Post 30880592)
Does SIN not have security screening at all gates (except for T4), making it independent of connecting flight origin?

Yes, of course but this is new to my last transfers, we were corralled down one side of the arrival gate area & made to do inbound security check...

chris63 Mar 13, 2019 2:57 am


Originally Posted by BinSabai (Post 30880637)
everybody in transit at SIN has to go through security. the security is in front of the departure gate
the security check on arrival, that is sometimes applied in SIN has nothing to do with transit as also passengers with final destination SIN have to pass... I guess it is quite random and on my flights from BKK on TG it was applied on less than one in 20 flights...

Yes, well it’s new to me & only on my last 2 inbound flights from BKK

SKT-DK Mar 13, 2019 3:01 am


Originally Posted by chris63 (Post 30880802)


Yes, of course but this is new to my last transfers, we were corralled down one side of the arrival gate area & made to do inbound security check...

Oh ok - never happened to me, but I guess they do random checks just like in certain airports you can encounter immigration police at the door of the plane too.

BinSabai Mar 13, 2019 3:24 am


Originally Posted by SKT-DK (Post 30880814)
Oh ok - never happened to me, but I guess they do random checks just like in certain airports you can encounter immigration police at the door of the plane too.

this security check on arrival is pretty unique in Singapore and they can do it easy as they have security facilities at each gate.
Everybody is screened as it is done on departure and the water bottles are collected (on my question what logic it has to collect water bottles from arriving passengers the officers just said those are the rules and they are doing their duties. Useless to question it further in a dictatorship and police state as Singapore is).
as I said it is random and I have experienced it 3-4 times during all those years, so less than one in 20 flights on TG from BKK


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