ROP Program changes
Mar 30, 2019, 9:07 am
#76
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 13
US, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, China, Germany, Dubai, Myanmar, Australia, that I travelled for last 12 months so far accepted, no problem. In Australia's Melbourne at NZ lounge, no problem also.
Mar 30, 2019, 11:32 am
#78
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 905
Question for ROP veterans: I just reached ROP Gold this year and sadly this change has taken effect. Are ROP upgrade redemptions in the form of vouchers or do you have to have a qualifying paid fare to redeem?
Also, generally speaking, are most of you in agreement that TK is the best programme now that these changes are to take effect? Versus say, Asiana or Eva... I noticed that the renewal thresholds are lower (for example, 30K status miles within one year or 45K status miles within two for a two year extension). Cheers, thanks everyone for the previous replies and info.
Also, generally speaking, are most of you in agreement that TK is the best programme now that these changes are to take effect? Versus say, Asiana or Eva... I noticed that the renewal thresholds are lower (for example, 30K status miles within one year or 45K status miles within two for a two year extension). Cheers, thanks everyone for the previous replies and info.
Other people here are more knowledgeable on these matters than I am.
Mar 30, 2019, 1:09 pm
#79
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: WLG/BKK
Programs: TG*G, NZ*GE, QF G, Accor Gold
Posts: 10,195
Qualifying fares need to be K class or higher for upgrades, the hierarchy is as follows Y, B, M, H, Q, T, K.
Fare classes Y-Q are 100% mileage earning, T-K are 75% earning.
Importantly not all of these are upgradable as there are various Fare Basis for each fare class, so you need to check the terms very carefully or contact your local THAI office.
For example, I wanted a fare AKL-BKK-ZRH in a fare class I could apply my GUP to. The website provided a Flexi-Saver fare (T and K class), so at first glance this looked suitable. However, checking the fare conditions on the 'more details' link for FlexiSaver, the fare was not upgradable (the fare wasn't a 'sale' fare or part of any special promotion).
I needed to call the local THAI office and pay a much higher prices for a K fare with an upgradable fare basis (around $600 NZ or $US 400 more).
So in the end:
FlexiSaver K Class KM3MNZE $1750 Cannot use GUP (fare as sold on website)
FlexiSaver K Class K1LENZE $2350 Can use GUP (fare basis only avail from THAI office)
The slow rise in YBMHQTK fares, and increasing restrictions on the exact fare basis have also degraded the ROP benefits.
Fare classes Y-Q are 100% mileage earning, T-K are 75% earning.
Importantly not all of these are upgradable as there are various Fare Basis for each fare class, so you need to check the terms very carefully or contact your local THAI office.
For example, I wanted a fare AKL-BKK-ZRH in a fare class I could apply my GUP to. The website provided a Flexi-Saver fare (T and K class), so at first glance this looked suitable. However, checking the fare conditions on the 'more details' link for FlexiSaver, the fare was not upgradable (the fare wasn't a 'sale' fare or part of any special promotion).
I needed to call the local THAI office and pay a much higher prices for a K fare with an upgradable fare basis (around $600 NZ or $US 400 more).
So in the end:
FlexiSaver K Class KM3MNZE $1750 Cannot use GUP (fare as sold on website)
FlexiSaver K Class K1LENZE $2350 Can use GUP (fare basis only avail from THAI office)
The slow rise in YBMHQTK fares, and increasing restrictions on the exact fare basis have also degraded the ROP benefits.
Last edited by Thai-Kiwi; Mar 30, 2019 at 2:01 pm
Mar 30, 2019, 9:42 pm
#80
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: TK E+, RJ S, AZ E
Posts: 1,869
Apr 12, 2019, 3:30 pm
#81
Join Date: Jun 2007
Programs: ROP Gold
Posts: 1,292
Is there somewhere we could write to to complain about this devaluation? The return ticket is so much more expensive than SQ's Star Alliance Round trip ticket.
I guess many will change to another *A program. Can anyone recommend one with a "more-reasonable" redemption rate?
I guess many will change to another *A program. Can anyone recommend one with a "more-reasonable" redemption rate?
Last edited by anaidross; Apr 12, 2019 at 4:11 pm
Apr 13, 2019, 12:14 am
#83
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Bangkok
Programs: TG ROP Gold, SQ KF Gold, Marriott Ambassador Elite, Accor ALL Plat., Shangri-La Jade, GHA Plat.
Posts: 127
Re: BR, their J class prices have increased a lot in the last few weeks as they revamped their fare structure. I used to be able to buy a BKK-CDG-BKK via TPE in J at around 83k THB, but this is now gone, it’s minimum 110k.
Their PE is a good value indeed, but I just can’t sleep at all (I flew PE on TPE-CDG 2 days ago). I keep on slipping off my seat and there’s no movable lower part to lift your legs.
Apr 13, 2019, 3:21 am
#85
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Bangkok
Programs: TG ROP Gold, SQ KF Gold, Marriott Ambassador Elite, Accor ALL Plat., Shangri-La Jade, GHA Plat.
Posts: 127
That said KrisFlyer has been devaluated a lot these days, but as you seem to be a very good premium customers, you’ll probably get a better value over there
Apr 13, 2019, 3:49 am
#86
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 125
I guess for me the devaluation isn’t the reason...it’s the last straw. Cost of flights, schedule changes with 4 flights a week versus 4 flights a day, the ...... 777-200 business class product, and a now almost impossible FF seat availability has forced my hand.
Apr 13, 2019, 9:54 am
#88
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 425
Apr 14, 2019, 1:12 am
#90
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 425
but in the meantime do please email TG to let them know why you are planning to leave ROP. It may encourage them to think again about some of their proposed changes.