ROP Program changes
Mar 27, 2019, 6:14 pm
#61
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Melbourne
Programs: Velocity Gold
Posts: 1,069
A lot of thought in to this by Thai...comment from dajop on AFF:
The bizarre bit on the the Europe award is that if you want to use Thai, and book all the way on Thai as a connection, you use the "Beyond Bangkok" award table, and it's 175k one way. If you use don't book it as a connection, but book it as two one ways, into and out of Bangkok, you use the "One Way- Direct Bangkok" table, and it is 60K + 95K = 155K.
The bizarre bit on the the Europe award is that if you want to use Thai, and book all the way on Thai as a connection, you use the "Beyond Bangkok" award table, and it's 175k one way. If you use don't book it as a connection, but book it as two one ways, into and out of Bangkok, you use the "One Way- Direct Bangkok" table, and it is 60K + 95K = 155K.
Mar 27, 2019, 10:30 pm
#62
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: SYDNEY
Programs: *A Gold, HH dia,Hyatt plat,Sixt PLAT,QF , EY Gold
Posts: 1,890
I have a related question if anyone could help . I have a friend who miles are expiring at march 2019 . I have tried looking for donations to extent the miles and there is none,. Then I tried to redeem for a shopping voucher and was told that was an option for overseas residences. So I finally ended up get a AVIS one day car rental voucher and now got a reply again with the same answer needs too be a Thai residences, so I have ran out of options.
Any suggestions ?
Any suggestions ?
Mar 28, 2019, 2:04 am
#63
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Bangkok
Programs: TG ROP Gold, SQ KF Gold, Marriott Ambassador Elite, Accor ALL Plat., Shangri-La Jade, GHA Plat.
Posts: 127
Well... It was good while it lasted. Used to be good with all those promotions, but once you got ROP Gold, there was no reasons to fly with TG anymore, since you didn't get a mile bonus for flying on TG's own metal rather than another *A airline (like BR, which used to have a very good value for money in J).
So now, I transferred all my ROP credit cards points to ROP and will book as many J class and F class tickets as possible before 1st Nov...
So now, I transferred all my ROP credit cards points to ROP and will book as many J class and F class tickets as possible before 1st Nov...
Mar 28, 2019, 4:07 am
#64
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 204
I have a related question if anyone could help . I have a friend who miles are expiring at march 2019 . I have tried looking for donations to extent the miles and there is none,. Then I tried to redeem for a shopping voucher and was told that was an option for overseas residences. So I finally ended up get a AVIS one day car rental voucher and now got a reply again with the same answer needs too be a Thai residences, so I have ran out of options.
Any suggestions ?
Any suggestions ?
Mar 28, 2019, 4:33 am
#65
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 204
Well... It was good while it lasted. Used to be good with all those promotions, but once you got ROP Gold, there was no reasons to fly with TG anymore, since you didn't get a mile bonus for flying on TG's own metal rather than another *A airline (like BR, which used to have a very good value for money in J).
So now, I transferred all my ROP credit cards points to ROP and will book as many J class and F class tickets as possible before 1st Nov...
So now, I transferred all my ROP credit cards points to ROP and will book as many J class and F class tickets as possible before 1st Nov...
The 50% discount on award redemptions once a year was a good thing, but with the new points requirements for awards, even at 50% it's poor value.
Contemplating switching my next, already booked, *A flights to use something other than my ROP FF number now. TK seems to have decent connections from where I'm often departing now, as no longer based in Thailand anyway, though still flying there more often than other places. Will need to calculate whether it looks like I will make enough flights on TK to get *A gold before my TG gold expires, or whether I should stick with TG till I've got enough points to renew my TG *G for another two years before switching though.
Will say TG was good about air awards in my experience however. Did not have any of the problems with lack of availability or problems finding dates I've seen other here complain about in regards to other airlines. I also like that they've given ample advance notice for the points increase, unlike e.g. SQ who recently announced something similar with just a few weeks notice.
Mar 28, 2019, 5:29 am
#67
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 204
If you're desperate, send me a PM and maybe I can give my friends address to use, preferably for some voucher she can just scan and send me later.
Mar 28, 2019, 6:45 am
#68
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 905
I’m down to 16,000 points: the lowest in 20 years.
Mar 28, 2019, 8:12 am
#69
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Bangkok
Programs: TG ROP Gold, SQ KF Gold, Marriott Ambassador Elite, Accor ALL Plat., Shangri-La Jade, GHA Plat.
Posts: 127
Agree with the other posters here. This makes ROP really bad value for money. Used almost all my points for two EU-AU award tickets in J a few months ago, so fortunately don't have many points left anyway.
The 50% discount on award redemptions once a year was a good thing, but with the new points requirements for awards, even at 50% it's poor value.
Contemplating switching my next, already booked, *A flights to use something other than my ROP FF number now. TK seems to have decent connections from where I'm often departing now, as no longer based in Thailand anyway, though still flying there more often than other places. Will need to calculate whether it looks like I will make enough flights on TK to get *A gold before my TG gold expires, or whether I should stick with TG till I've got enough points to renew my TG *G for another two years before switching though.
Will say TG was good about air awards in my experience however. Did not have any of the problems with lack of availability or problems finding dates I've seen other here complain about in regards to other airlines. I also like that they've given ample advance notice for the points increase, unlike e.g. SQ who recently announced something similar with just a few weeks notice.
The 50% discount on award redemptions once a year was a good thing, but with the new points requirements for awards, even at 50% it's poor value.
Contemplating switching my next, already booked, *A flights to use something other than my ROP FF number now. TK seems to have decent connections from where I'm often departing now, as no longer based in Thailand anyway, though still flying there more often than other places. Will need to calculate whether it looks like I will make enough flights on TK to get *A gold before my TG gold expires, or whether I should stick with TG till I've got enough points to renew my TG *G for another two years before switching though.
Will say TG was good about air awards in my experience however. Did not have any of the problems with lack of availability or problems finding dates I've seen other here complain about in regards to other airlines. I also like that they've given ample advance notice for the points increase, unlike e.g. SQ who recently announced something similar with just a few weeks notice.
Mar 28, 2019, 10:44 am
#70
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: WLG/BKK
Programs: TG*G, NZ*GE, QF G, Accor Gold
Posts: 10,190
fully subscribing to what you’re saying...I need to figure out my next move. I’ll probably as well try to renew my gold status with Thai for 2 years and switch to TK or BR. Anybody knows if we still get lounge benefits if having a non-Gold FF number of a Y boarding pass whilst still having a gold status with another FF number under the same name?
accruing into program A on the booking
show physical *G card of program B
Air NZ wont now allow this. So I cannot accrue to NZ (no status) and show my TG *G card for alliance benefits - very grumpy as it seems to defy the point of *A rules. However, Air NZ are fine if I want to accrue to another (*A) program.
Friends have told me *A want to ‘fix’ what is seen by some as double-dipping. I see it as the benefit of *A, otherwise what is the point?
Mar 29, 2019, 3:22 am
#71
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 10
Question for ROP veterans: I just reached ROP Gold this year and sadly this change has taken effect. Are ROP upgrade redemptions in the form of vouchers or do you have to have a qualifying paid fare to redeem?
Also, generally speaking, are most of you in agreement that TK is the best programme now that these changes are to take effect? Versus say, Asiana or Eva... I noticed that the renewal thresholds are lower (for example, 30K status miles within one year or 45K status miles within two for a two year extension). Cheers, thanks everyone for the previous replies and info.
Also, generally speaking, are most of you in agreement that TK is the best programme now that these changes are to take effect? Versus say, Asiana or Eva... I noticed that the renewal thresholds are lower (for example, 30K status miles within one year or 45K status miles within two for a two year extension). Cheers, thanks everyone for the previous replies and info.
Mar 29, 2019, 9:40 am
#72
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 13
Should be fine doing what you want:
accruing into program A on the booking
show physical *G card of program B
Air NZ wont now allow this. So I cannot accrue to NZ (no status) and show my TG *G card for alliance benefits - very grumpy as it seems to defy the point of *A rules. However, Air NZ are fine if I want to accrue to another (*A) program.
Friends have told me *A want to ‘fix’ what is seen by some as double-dipping. I see it as the benefit of *A, otherwise what is the point?
accruing into program A on the booking
show physical *G card of program B
Air NZ wont now allow this. So I cannot accrue to NZ (no status) and show my TG *G card for alliance benefits - very grumpy as it seems to defy the point of *A rules. However, Air NZ are fine if I want to accrue to another (*A) program.
Friends have told me *A want to ‘fix’ what is seen by some as double-dipping. I see it as the benefit of *A, otherwise what is the point?
Mar 29, 2019, 9:49 am
#73
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Bangkok
Programs: TG ROP Gold, SQ KF Gold, Marriott Ambassador Elite, Accor ALL Plat., Shangri-La Jade, GHA Plat.
Posts: 127
Cool, thanks! So you just need to present your hard printed Gold status card to the lounge, and they would accept it?
Mar 29, 2019, 2:04 pm
#75
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: WLG/BKK
Programs: TG*G, NZ*GE, QF G, Accor Gold
Posts: 10,190
Star Alliance Gold Customers travelling in any class of travel
As a Star Alliance Gold customer travelling in any class on a Star Alliance member airline operated flight, you have access to any member airline lounge at the airport where your flight departs, if the following conditions are met:
- You present your boarding pass of a Star Alliance member airline operated flight which departs at the same day as your visit or latest by 05:00 AM the next morning.
- If your boarding pass does not carry the Star Alliance Gold indicator, you will need to also show your valid Star Alliance Gold card.
- The lounge displays the Star Alliance Gold logo at the entrance.
- You are entitled to bring one guest travelling on any Star Alliance flight departing from the same airport on the same day.
As a Star Alliance Gold customer travelling in any class on a Star Alliance member airline operated flight, you have access to any member airline lounge at the airport where your flight departs, if the following conditions are met:
- You present your boarding pass of a Star Alliance member airline operated flight which departs at the same day as your visit or latest by 05:00 AM the next morning.
- If your boarding pass does not carry the Star Alliance Gold indicator, you will need to also show your valid Star Alliance Gold card.
- The lounge displays the Star Alliance Gold logo at the entrance.
- You are entitled to bring one guest travelling on any Star Alliance flight departing from the same airport on the same day.