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Old Feb 27, 2019, 2:05 am
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Thai suspends Thailand-Europe flights temporarily

Looking at flightradar today looks like flights to Europe are returning to Bangkok because of the trouble between Pakistan and India anyone got any solid information on the issue

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Old Feb 27, 2019, 3:03 am
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The closure of the Pakistani airspace Is certainly creating a huge mess
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Old Feb 27, 2019, 3:30 am
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Pakistan airspace has been closed since this morning
also other flights seem to have been affected as i.e. SQ flight from SIN to FRA has been diverted to Bombay.....
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Old Feb 27, 2019, 3:32 am
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What a mess! I expect a lot distressed pax at BKK soon. It seems to affect at least TG926, TG974, TG916 and BR67

It seems that EK is still able to operate. A EK flight is approaching BKK right now and 1 EK flight just took off heading for DXB. Would it not be possible for the TG flights in the air to reroute to DXB (or BOM or some other place) and refuel there?
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most of the flights from SEA to Europe now rerouting over Mumbai, South of Pakistan, U.A.E. instead of North India, Pakistan, Iran
we will see the delays….
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Old Feb 27, 2019, 4:00 am
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actually only few TG flights to Europe affected as most flights leaving BKK before or after midnight reached Europe already
and those leaving Europe mid day arrived SEA before closure of the Pakistan airspace

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Old Feb 27, 2019, 4:30 am
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Second flight to FRA TG926, BKK-HKT-FRA returned to BKK a while ago.

Of course all midnight TG flights to Europe made it as the airspace was only closed this morning, i.e. way after these flights had passed this airspace.

The impact will be on the many TG flights scheduled to leave from Europe to BKK in the next 1-3 hours. Cancelled? rerouted?
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Flightradar24 shows TG916 to LHR also returned to BKK

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Old Feb 27, 2019, 5:27 am
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Some will likely require fuel diversions, all depending on specific routing and conditions/ This will also cause knock on delays which mount because these are ULH aircraft and there are few "spares" lying around.
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Old Feb 27, 2019, 5:31 am
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Some will likely require fuel diversions, all depending on specific routing and conditions/ This will also cause knock on delays which mount because these are ULH aircraft and there are few "spares" lying around.
the TG aircrafts do not have a quick turn around in Europe (arrive early morning and return around noon); however some of those arriving back in BKK need a quick turn around
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Old Feb 27, 2019, 6:13 am
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Originally Posted by SK AAR
What a mess! I expect a lot distressed pax at BKK soon. It seems to affect at least TG926, TG974, TG916 and BR67

It seems that EK is still able to operate. A EK flight is approaching BKK right now and 1 EK flight just took off heading for DXB. Would it not be possible for the TG flights in the air to reroute to DXB (or BOM or some other place) and refuel there?
What a mess indeed!
As for returning to BKK, I suspect it is a trade-off between landing fees (and slots) at DXB or other diversion points as well as other associated costs versus the cost of returning to home base.
Depending on how far from BKK the planes have gone, it would still be possible to return, refuel for the longer route and make it to Europe in time for an on-time return sector - as BinSabai says, they all have a long time on the ground on the European outstations.
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Old Feb 27, 2019, 6:21 am
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update: all flights out of Europe seem to be cancelled and there are unconfirmed Infos that flights out of BKK to Europe tonight will also be cancelled with the exception of LHR
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Old Feb 27, 2019, 6:24 am
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TG911 showing as cancelled no sign on flightradar of any European flights returning to Bangkok.
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Old Feb 27, 2019, 6:26 am
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Originally Posted by BinSabai
update: all flights out of Europe seem to be cancelled and there are unconfirmed Infos that flights out of BKK to Europe tonight will also be cancelled with the exception of LHR
Wow - that seems a bit drastic! Just checked the CPH website, and TG951 is indeed showing "Await Info at..." an unspecified time...
And although Arlanda.se says TG961 is "gate closed", FR24 says it is cancelled.

Guess it means either two flights back tomorrow, or a full rotation cancelled and they leave the planes in Europe to pick up tomorrow's flight

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Old Feb 27, 2019, 6:42 am
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Wow - that seems a bit drastic! Just checked the CPH website, and TG951 is indeed showing "Await Info at..." an unspecified time...
And although Arlanda.se says TG961 is "gate closed", FR24 says it is cancelled.

Guess it means either two flights back tomorrow, or a full rotation cancelled and they leave the planes in Europe to pick up tomorrow's flight
that will get quite a chaos during next couple of days, even if just one rotation is cancelled given it is high Season...

actually quite disappointing as I see SQ flying at least the ones i checked from CDG, FRA and ZRH...
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