monahos

I have yet to see a 3 point airline seat belt whose diagonal part could not be unclipped for level flight. While that diagonal strap can be uncomfortable depending on one's build and position, I find it much preferable to a 2 point belt with built-in airbag, which are uncomfortably stiff 100% of the time, not to mention costly and wasteful (airbag inflators having a limited lifespan).

On another note, HS-TEN seems to be flying exclusively to NRT (TG 640/1) and Krabi.
I really hope the ICN 773's get new seats sooner than later, as their 2-3-2 layout offers zero privacy.

IBstudent

https://spin9.me/2018/07/27/review-t...yal-silk-a330/

THAI review on the new Business class seat.

flyerby

BinSabai

there were actually two versions
42 recliner seats (have been on this Version around 2 years ago on a domestic flight)
36 angle flat
but agree with your opinion/conclusion

pandalama

Tried these seats finally.

- Seats whilst sitting is comfortable.
- Reclining is quite alright
- Lie flat = horrible.

I much prefer the A350-900 seats. Very easy to get in and out whilst in lie flat position. This one it was a little bit of a struggle. Also, the air conditioning wasn't very good on my flight. Not sure why it was warm throughout. Adjusting between modes, from lie flat to upright was also not easy! The button positioning is kinda awkward especially the full panel at the back.

The best thing about this? It seems for the first time TG finally has an AVOD system that is truly easy to navigate. Perhaps due to the shift to Android OS.

5khours

Flew the 330 refurb for the first time. Once I boarded, I asked to be switched to the front row which has a lot more foot space.

1) Overall pretty well designed.
2) Unlike some seats there's enough recline in the full upright position to be somewhat comfortable even on landing and take off.
3) Seat controls are Ok, but I must have bumped them a dozen times with my shoulder or elbow.
4) Everything is pretty well arranged.
5) Tray does not slide forward and back so don't try to switching from flat to recline while the tray is down.
6) Recline position is quite comfortable.
7) For me the sleeping position is the most important. I hate most of the new J class seats... especially the tiny footwells. TG was very comfortable (at least in the first row.) Extra foot room made it easy to sleep on my side or back and switch easily back and forth. Seat was little tight on my shoulders, but not too bad. I found it quite easy to get in and out of the seat.

Overall much better than anything I've tried on TG or other carriers' 787s or 350s. (Realize this is quite different than Pandalama's review. Might be because I was in the first row or maybe because I'm tall... 6'3")

monahos

Non-bulkhead Vantage seats have notoriously small footwells.
A 'beanpole' friend with proportionate feet reports being unable to move his feet in the flat position in those seats, although his aversion for taking shoes off in public must not help; somehow his favorite business seat is the BA 744 UD CW window seat by the door, while a wide-bodied short friend likes the ultra-wide late 2000's SQ seat best. Different preferences for different morphologies.
I have also seen a large passenger unable to squeeze into a Vantage seat with 'furniture' on both sides, and have to move to an aisle one.

Personally I am fine with this seat, but think it is comfortable for a smaller percentage of the population than some other, less space-efficient designs. People with long feet (except bulkhead), wide hips, side sleepers who like a 'Z' position (especially not directly adjacent to aisle or window), and claustrophobes (some complain of coffin sensation especially in the thrones) may not fancy it.

MikeFromTokyo

Kacee

I think it's a worse seat than the B/E Diamond, the only advantage being that you'll get a number of single seats with the Vantage. In addition to the footwell issue, there's the "coffin" sensation (which doesn't really bother me) and typically very hard padding and an immovable armrest which really constricts the width (both of which do).

I assume TG got a very cheap price for a last generation seat. There are far superior products (e.g., Cirrus and Vantage XL) which have been approved for the 330.

5khours

Not to quibble, but I found the padding to be not at all hard relative to other seats. Also I was able to lower the armrest (but it took some time to figure out how to do it.)

Also before moving to the front row, I was in a row further back and did not find the footwell that tight.

Kacee

On both sides? I've flown this seat many times in various configurations and IME the window side armrest is fixed (and takes up a ton of space).

5khours

Aisle side.

Disinto

This retrofitted 333 is known under the 33R code, right?
What are the routes so far?

The Travelling Fox

kkl

if its heading on the PER route, would be wonderful