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Old May 23, 2011, 1:03 pm
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Retrofitting will continue with HS-TGW and then HS-TGX but date is not decided yet.
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Old May 30, 2011, 7:33 am
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As many of you know, HS-TGR is now equipped with new Economy from Zim and PTV. It is due to begin its service on Bangkok - Frankfurt route from June onwards.

The remaining 5 will come in July, August, September, November, December.
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Old May 30, 2011, 9:22 am
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Here is the link that shows the photo of retrofitted 744.
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Old May 30, 2011, 10:45 am
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And here's the youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5f2q-BwqHE
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Old May 30, 2011, 6:39 pm
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Today's newspaper article link on the retrofit of 747s and 777s.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/...enger-friendly
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Old May 30, 2011, 6:53 pm
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Originally Posted by albion8844
Today's newspaper article link on the retrofit of 747s and 777s.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/...enger-friendly
In the article photo the pitch still looks quite generous...34"?
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Old May 30, 2011, 8:16 pm
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Originally Posted by wheresmybagba
In the article photo the pitch still looks quite generous...34"?
Yes, from thai news they mentioned the retrofitted 744 still has 34" pitch.
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Old May 31, 2011, 2:35 am
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Does anyone know if Rome (FCO) - Bangkok (BKK) will finally be upgraded to a refurbished aircraft? This route must have one of the oldest aircraft of them all! :P
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Old May 31, 2011, 4:00 am
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Originally Posted by maestro1981
Does anyone know if Rome (FCO) - Bangkok (BKK) will finally be upgraded to a refurbished aircraft? This route must have one of the oldest aircraft of them all! :P
It seems a bit surprising but the 747s that currently have the old config J & F are some of the youngest in the TG 747 fleet...on the other hand the refurbed ones are the oldest...this plane TGR is about 16 years old. HS-TGG which is old config J & F, and apparently these wont be refurbed, is less than 8 years old. Go figure!
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Old May 31, 2011, 4:56 am
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Originally Posted by wheresmybagba
It seems a bit surprising but the 747s that currently have the old config J & F are some of the youngest in the TG 747 fleet...on the other hand the refurbed ones are the oldest...this plane TGR is about 16 years old. HS-TGG which is old config J & F, and apparently these wont be refurbed, is less than 8 years old. Go figure!
Thai (TG) logic Actually the chance of an old 744(2) is the one thing scaring me away from booking FCO-BKK on TG in C. That would be the worst thing that could happen and we all know with TG it would be a real possibility on that route.
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Old May 31, 2011, 5:06 am
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Soon also Y-pax can "enjoy" the Forest-Gump-lottery on 747 flights.

(You never know what you get.)
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Old May 31, 2011, 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by wheresmybagba
It seems a bit surprising but the 747s that currently have the old config J & F are some of the youngest in the TG 747 fleet...on the other hand the refurbed ones are the oldest...this plane TGR is about 16 years old. HS-TGG which is old config J & F, and apparently these wont be refurbed, is less than 8 years old. Go figure!
That's not the case. Of TG's 18 747-400, they will be divided into 3 groups

Group 1: HS-TGH - HS-TGP will be retired from passenger service. TGH and TGJ will be converted to cargo. The fate of the rest is currently unknown.

Group 2: HS-TGR - HS-TGX will be retrofitted with new Y seats with PTV but will keep the current generation F and C seat (7443 config). They will likely take over the former 7442 routes when A380 and the retrofitted 744 (see below) enter service.

Group 3: HS-TGY,Z,A,B,F,G will be totally retrofitted in all classes. The plan is to match the product of the A380. This includes new F and full flat C seat.

The 772 will also get PTV in Y.

After this phase of retrofit, TG product consistency will be vastly improved. Y will get PTV on all fleets except the older 333 and AB6. These will be primarily used on short haul and domestic routes anyway. On the premium class side, even if you get last minute aircraft swap, it would not be as devastating since getting angled lie flat seat instead of full flat seat, while that sucks, is not as shocking of getting the barely reclined C seat with antiquate PTV on 7442.

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Old Jun 1, 2011, 2:02 am
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I am flying BKK-FRA in January in First Class. Will that route still be using the old configuration for First?
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Old Jun 2, 2011, 1:08 am
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Originally Posted by BF263533
I am flying BKK-FRA in January in First Class. Will that route still be using the old configuration for First?
BKK-FRA is almost always being flown by a 744(3) which means the current TG F product. Yes it is not a suite like the ex-9W 77Ws but very good still and current. Substitutions on this route for an older conifg plane are very rare IMHO.
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Old Jun 2, 2011, 1:35 pm
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It is nice to see that TG has finally started updating their economy class 747s, and that the HS-TGY,Z,A,B,F,G will get new business an first class in 2012/2013 ^

Wonder what AC will fly to ARN/CPH when this happens?

BTW: does anyone know what configuration TG has chosen on their own 777-300ERs? If only two class, or three with premium economy, they would be a shoe-in for the ARN/CPH flights.

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