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Old Apr 4, 2018, 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by adobbing


I’m trying to use my IPhone, what is the desktop skin and will it make anything better?
No, the desktop skin is meant to be used on desktop devices. It doesn't work very well on mobile. You can select what skin to use in you r personal settings under Setting&options/Edit options

Originally Posted by kennycrudup
So, I've looked thru the last 5-6 pages, but didn't see an answer- is there a way (yet) to reduce the font size? I feel like I stepped into the "LARGE SIZE TEXT" version of FT (and it's much less readable as a result) ...!
Use zoom control in your browser (cmd minus and cmd plus).
But maybe you are on mobile device and using the desktop skin, then you are out of luck. The desktop design is meant for desktop devices and just doesn't work very well on mobile. Try the mobile skin.
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Old Apr 4, 2018, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by intuition
Use zoom control in your browser
Certainly this is just a(n unacceptable!) workaround, and not the official way of doing this, I hope!
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Old Apr 4, 2018, 3:09 pm
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Originally Posted by kennycrudup
Certainly this is just a(n unacceptable!) workaround, and not the official way of doing this, I hope!
I clearly have no capacity to state any official ways to do anything here.

However, it is a solution that worked excellently for me and spending the two seconds it took was one of my best investments.

Now I just come here to enjoy all the hyperbole
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Old Apr 4, 2018, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by IBJoel
To my knowledge, this is only effecting wikiposts, at this point and we are working to remedy, yes.
Actually, although it's a small point, the underlining of links also does not currently appear when you preview a post which you are about to make. This makes it harder to check whether you have got the links correct before making the post, and increases the chances that you have to edit it further later.
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Old Apr 4, 2018, 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Globaliser
Actually, although it's a small point, the underlining of links also does not currently appear when you preview a post which you are about to make. This makes it harder to check whether you have got the links correct before making the post, and increases the chances that you have to edit it further later.
Hmm... Interesting. I'll check it out.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/
OK, looks like that's happening, although in the edit window it's underlined. I'll let tech know, but it's going to get prioritized lower than some other stuff here.

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Old Apr 4, 2018, 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by IBJoel
I'll let tech know, but it's going to get prioritized lower than some other stuff here.
Thanks, IBJoel. Entirely understood about the priority; I agree that there are more important things to fix first.
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Old Apr 4, 2018, 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Zorak
I'm surprised it took so long for someone to say this (maybe I missed it earlier in the thread)

I think it's entirely valid to point out that we don't pay for this.

At the same time, depending how long something has been on FT etc there is a sense of community, people may feel different levels of attachment and so on, such that there is frictional cost you leaving and finding another similar environment. So I think it's also valid for people to be annoyed.

Plus, viewed another way, if the whole Web 2.0 thing means the users are the product, being sold to advertisers, then it behooves FT to keep its livestock happy...
So at best we're happy cows? I wonder whether canadiancow is feeling happy.

Personally, I'd feel happier if I could go to the first unread post. Clicking the icon on a forum page only works randomly and sometimes removes the option at the top of the thread pages to go to the first unread post in the thread. Moreover, within a thread, there's no way to see which posts have been marked as read, so that for short or relatively inactive threads, the simple workaround of going to the last post in the thread and then scrolling back on the page until the last post marked as read appears non longer works.
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Old Apr 4, 2018, 5:50 pm
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We would like to remind everyone that civility is expected in all postings. Abusive aspersions cast against IB staff or anyone will not be tolerated. We recognize that feelings are running high on the part of some about this change; the most appropriate way to communicate those is to civilly describe the issues. As has long been said, "Discuss the post, not the poster."

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Old Apr 4, 2018, 8:12 pm
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Still can’t jump back to the FORUM after replying to a post. Here, in the Delta forum:
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Old Apr 4, 2018, 9:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Zorak
I'm surprised it took so long for someone to say this (maybe I missed it earlier in the thread)

I think it's entirely valid to point out that we don't pay for this.

At the same time, depending how long something has been on FT etc there is a sense of community, people may feel different levels of attachment and so on, such that there is frictional cost you leaving and finding another similar environment. So I think it's also valid for people to be annoyed.

Plus, viewed another way, if the whole Web 2.0 thing means the users are the product, being sold to advertisers, then it behooves FT to keep its livestock happy...
Definitely. I think the point was really more to just get a little perspective. The site works. According to most usability standards, it's more readable than it was before, except for a few things that need to be tweaked such as font sizes on search pages or hyperlink colors (already addressed). Some of the freakout reactions are way overboard, you would think something serious happened like kids getting into the skyclub.
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 6:24 am
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Originally Posted by Zorak
I'm surprised it took so long for someone to say this (maybe I missed it earlier in the thread)

I think it's entirely valid to point out that we don't pay for this.

At the same time, depending how long something has been on FT etc there is a sense of community, people may feel different levels of attachment and so on, such that there is frictional cost you leaving and finding another similar environment. So I think it's also valid for people to be annoyed.

Plus, viewed another way, if the whole Web 2.0 thing means the users are the product, being sold to advertisers, then it behooves FT to keep its livestock happy...
True, but neither does IB pay us for the content which is almost entirely user generated. Without the content FT would just be...InsideFlyer

I mostly like the new design except for the two issues I mentioned upthread. At least this is less buggy than the last major "enhancement"
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 6:46 am
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Was it by design to have three different shades of blue (plus the blue-ish graphic at the very top of the page) on the MyFT page?
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 7:51 am
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Originally Posted by mduell
The new forum is really limiting what fits in code blocks, both for width with the larger font size, and for length.

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edit: longer tables get a bigger preview window than short tables now, they used to all get the same scrollbar-free length before the scrollbar was thrown at them
I've been finding this very frustrating today. There is no length of block above one that does not trigger a vertical scrollbar, and any block that is more than four lines in length has at least one line that is obscured and requires scrolling to read, even though a longer block allows you to read the first five, six, seven or more lines before having to scroll down.

Even more frustrating, post preview shows the blocks without scrollbars (screenshot at end of this post).

An edited demonstration with increasing block lengths:-
Code:
Aircraft     Delivery     Hours                   Retirement (see note 3)
G-BNLK mid   25.05.1990   115,740 at 11.05.2017   11.2018
G-CIVA mid   22.03.1993   115,714 at 12.03.2018
G-BNLP mid   17.12.1990   115,626 at 25.08.2017   12.2018
G-BNLN mid   27.07.1990   114,458 at 07.06.2017   07.2019
G-BNLY mid   10.02.1993   113,522 at 09.02.2018
G-CIVC mid   26.02.1994   111,480 at 07.02.2018
Code:
G-CIVB mid   15.02.1994   108,391 at 16.01.2018
Code:
G-CIVE mid   20.12.1994   104,969 at 28.07.2017
G-CIVD mid   14.12.1994   102,816 at 06.07.2017
Code:
G-CIVL mid   28.03.1997    95,870 at 10.11.2017
G-CIVG s-hi  20.04.1995    95,425 at 21.12.2017
G-CIVJ mid   11.02.1997    94,772 at 08.08.2017
Code:
G-CIVN mid   29.09.1997    94,391 at 14.09.2017
G-CIVK mid   28.02.1997    94,262 at 10.08.2017
G-CIVH s-hi  23.04.1996    93,386 at 30.03.2018
G-CIVP mid   17.02.1998    93,219 at 23.01.2018
Code:
G-CIVT mid   20.03.1998    92,132 at 01.11.2017
G-CIVU mid   24.04.1998    91,374 at 22.03.2018
G-CIVF s-hi  29.03.1995    91,255 at 29.08.2017
G-CIVI s-hi  02.05.1996    88,096 at 27.04.2017
G-CIVM mid*  05.06.1997    87,369 at 12.05.2017
Code:
G-CIVO mid   05.12.1997    85,930 at 25.09.2017
G-CIVS s-hi  13.03.1998    85,612 at 15.02.2018   [W]
G-CIVV s-hi  22.05.1998    85,234 at 19.03.2018   [W]
G-CIVR s-hi  02.03.1998    83,404 at 16.01.2018   [W]
G-CIVW s-hi  15.05.1998    82,273 at 20.03.2018
G-CIVX s-hi  03.09.1998    82,097 at 29.08.2017   [W]
G-BYGF s-hi  17.02.1999    81,773 at 07.02.2018
G-BYGG s-hi  29.04.1999    81,264 at 05.03.2018
G-CIVZ s-hi  31.10.1998    80,780 at 25.08.2017
G-BYGA s-hi  14.12.1998    80,252 at 21.11.2017
G-BYGD s-hi  26.01.1999    80,162 at 04.10.2017
G-BYGC s-hi  19.01.1999    79,622 at 26.05.2017   [W]
G-BYGE s-hi  05.02.1999    79,543 at 16.01.2018
G-CIVY s-hi  29.09.1998    79,418 at 25.08.2017
G-BYGB s-hi  17.01.1999    79,044 at 07.06.2017
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by lo2e
Was it by design to have three different shades of blue (plus the blue-ish graphic at the very top of the page) on the MyFT page?
On my desktop screen, 1 and 3 look identical, but they definitely clash with 2.
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 10:49 am
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Originally Posted by WIRunner
Nope, it is more like this:

And it is literally some paint and topical stuff that should be easily remedied.
So other than how it looks, and the content, nothing else is wrong?

Maybe I'll pass that on to my UX team - how the site looks isn't a big deal, focus on the other stuff.
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