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IBobi Jan 9, 2018 5:08 pm

NEW FlyerTalk mobile skin update 9 January 2018
 
In the NEW mobile skin, we have made it easier for you to navigate on FlyerTalk Forums! For example, on the main forum page you will be able to expand and collapse forum headings to access subforums within (with out loading another page like before).

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...216075b1b1.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...da056c88e4.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f0e372bfbc.jpg

We’ve also made some improvements to the sub-forum pages where you can start browsing different threads in a much cleaner lay out with segmented color coded sections.





https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...18f349d74e.jpg


These changes are designed to be small, incremental improvements to make it easier to differentiate different types of forum text content, and make browsing easier on your mobile device.

Please let us know if you have any issues or concerns.



gilbertaue Jan 9, 2018 5:16 pm

Playing around right now and at first glance I like it.

Only issue I have encountered that is: Unread posts are as usual bold, however clicking on them does not jump to the last unread post. It takes you to page 1 out of x and then you have to start searching for where you last read up to.

RadioGirl Jan 9, 2018 5:31 pm


Originally Posted by gilbertaue (Post 29272164)
Playing around right now and at first glance I like it.

Only issue I have encountered that is: Unread posts are as usual bold, however clicking on them does not jump to the last unread post. It takes you to page 1 out of x and then you have to start searching for where you last read up to.

​​​​​​​This. Very pretty but a nuisance to navigate.

Zorak Jan 9, 2018 5:41 pm

From the subscription page, in the mobile skin

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/subscription.php

1. Tapping on a thread with new activity brings me to the first post in the thread, instead of the first new post. Granted, once I'm on the first page, the "view first unread" link works, but it's an extra step, extra page loading time, and the old behavior is a nicer experience.

2. Perhaps related, in the same subscription view, it shows the original poster of the thread. I wouldn't swear to it but I feel like it used to show the most recent or perhaps first new poster, which IMO is more interesting/useful

unrelated to the recent changes, but as long as I'm posting, my other top mobile skin related feature requests would be

3. add similar "tools" capabilities to the mobile skin that are present in the desktop site, specifically the ability to subscribe and unsubscribe to a thread. This could perhaps go in the "+More" menu.

4. Add a way to search only within the currently viewed thread again similar to what you can do in the desktop site.

IBobi Jan 9, 2018 6:05 pm


Originally Posted by Zorak (Post 29272223)

3. add similar "tools" capabilities to the mobile skin that are present in the desktop site, specifically the ability to subscribe and unsubscribe to a thread. This could perhaps go in the "+More" menu.

You can subscribe to threads from mobile; just hit the yellow star next to the title to subscribe/unsubscribe.

IBobi Jan 9, 2018 6:08 pm


Originally Posted by gilbertaue (Post 29272164)

Only issue I have encountered that is: Unread posts are as usual bold, however clicking on them does not jump to the last unread post. It takes you to page 1 out of x and then you have to start searching for where you last read up to.


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 29272196)
This. Very pretty but a nuisance to navigate.


Originally Posted by Zorak (Post 29272223)

1. Tapping on a thread with new activity brings me to the first post in the thread, instead of the first new post. Granted, once I'm on the first page, the "view first unread" link works, but it's an extra step, extra page loading time, and the old behavior is a nicer experience.

This change was deliberate -- now you can tap the thread title to go to the first post, or tap the "Last Post" arrow underneath the thread title and go to the most recent post. I realize that's not exactly "go to first unread" but our data shows that this is closer to what most forum users wanted out of mobile browsing.

You may also tap the thread title, which takes you to the first post, and below the title once you are in the thread you'll see a link to "View First Unread" which disappears after you've viewed the thread again.

RadioGirl Jan 9, 2018 6:29 pm


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 29272294)
This change was deliberate -- now you can tap the thread title to go to the first post, or tap the "Last Post" arrow underneath the thread title and go to the most recent post. I realize that's not exactly "go to first unread" but our data shows that this is closer to what most forum users wanted out of mobile browsing.

Really??? If I haven't read a thread for a few days (or even overnight in Australia while there's a lot of activity from other time zones), there can be a lot of posts to catch up on. I don't want the most recent post, I want to pick up where I left off. I can't be the only one...


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 29272294)
You may also tap the thread title, which takes you to the first post, and below the title once you are in the thread you'll see a link to "View First Unread" which disappears after you've viewed the thread again.

Great, another step and another wait for another page to download. Not impressed.

gilbertaue Jan 9, 2018 6:51 pm


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 29272347)
Really??? If I haven't read a thread for a few days (or even overnight in Australia while there's a lot of activity from other time zones), there can be a lot of posts to catch up on. I don't want the most recent post, I want to pick up where I left off. I can't be the only one...


This.

I get it that most people browsing non native forums may want to jump to the end. But if what is wanted is to get people to continue discussions in the threads they feel at home in, I want to continue from where I last stopped. That is why you leave a bookmark in your book. You don't flip to the index and then figure out what page you were on last... neither do you open to the book on the last page and flip backwards looking for where the page had a crease.

gilbertaue Jan 9, 2018 6:53 pm

We seem to take data speeds for granted... If I am on the road in Indonesia and want to catch up on FT discussions, there is nothing worse than unnecessary loading of pages I don't actually want to go to.

Zorak Jan 9, 2018 7:00 pm


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 29272284)
You can subscribe to threads from mobile; just hit the yellow star next to the title to subscribe/unsubscribe.

Ah, thanks -- didn't occur to me to try that! A menu item would still be nice though, for those for whom this is not intuitive.


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 29272294)
This change was deliberate -- now you can tap the thread title to go to the first post, or tap the "Last Post" arrow underneath the thread title and go to the most recent post. I realize that's not exactly "go to first unread" but our data shows that this is closer to what most forum users wanted out of mobile browsing.

Sorry, that's patently ridiculous. You have data showing that users reading threads that they've previously already visited want to start from post #1 , every single time they return to the thread? This doesn't pass the smell test. Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant?

quantumofforce Jan 9, 2018 7:18 pm

FT mobile site take me to page one instead of the last unread post of thread
 
I noticed the new "skin" on the mobile site, and when I open a thread it now starts at page one instead of the last unread post... am I doing it wrong? What should I do different.

Thanks,
Q

United747 Jan 9, 2018 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 29272294)
This change was deliberate -- now you can tap the thread title to go to the first post, or tap the "Last Post" arrow underneath the thread title and go to the most recent post. I realize that's not exactly "go to first unread" but our data shows that this is closer to what most forum users wanted out of mobile browsing.

You may also tap the thread title, which takes you to the first post, and below the title once you are in the thread you'll see a link to "View First Unread" which disappears after you've viewed the thread again.

I thought user interface design was about minimizing clicks (taps in this case). I never care to see the first post in subscribed threads. I subscribed because I already know why it’s about and want to read the most recent ​​​​​​, unread posts

Zorak Jan 9, 2018 7:34 pm

Update for like-minded folk:


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 29272294)
This change was deliberate -- now you can tap the thread title to go to the first post, or tap the "Last Post" arrow underneath the thread title and go to the most recent post.

Here's the desktop site. We're referring to the blue square arrow next to the thread title, yes?

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...19dfe5a502.png

Mobile format. No arrow. BUT!! That envelope icon, where it says "Notification: None" (and possibly the entire line) serves the same function.

If you tap that, instead of the thread title, it takes you to the most recent post.
apparently it takes you to the last post, not the first unread :(

I still think the "data" supporting the change in default behavior is BS but at least there's a way to get what we want (pity it was not clearly communicated)

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...594fe84094.png

gilbertaue Jan 9, 2018 7:52 pm


Originally Posted by Zorak (Post 29272532)
Update for like-minded folk:

I still think the "data" supporting the change in default behavior is BS but at least there's a way to get what we want (pity it was not clearly communicated)

Yes, and No. Clicking that "None" line takes you now to the latest post (time wise). That is not how it used to be. In a fast moving thread, like some of the OMNI ones, you want to read from where you last shut off. So in the past mobile skin, clicking on "last post" (I think it was called), took you to the post that came immediately after the last one loaded the previous time you went into the thread. That no longer happens.

Zorak Jan 9, 2018 8:08 pm


Originally Posted by gilbertaue (Post 29272589)
Yes, and No. Clicking that "None" line takes you now to the latest post (time wise). That is not how it used to be. In a fast moving thread, like some of the OMNI ones, you want to read from where you last shut off. So in the past mobile skin, clicking on "last post" (I think it was called), took you to the post that came immediately after the last one loaded the previous time you went into the thread. That no longer happens.

Oh, I thought it was first new (as distinct from "absolute latest"). Possibly the threads I tried only had one new post.


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