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Silver Fox Jul 14, 2016 9:23 am

Quotes and quoting
 
Now, this is just an example so I can make my point and not directed at this particular post or poster, that said, on other forums I frequent when someone is quoted they seem to have a function that only displays some of the quoted text and you have to click on it to display more. Can we implement a function such as this as threads get absolutely cluttered when reading them with this.

My example post is this.

IBobi Jul 14, 2016 3:03 pm


Originally Posted by Silver Fox (Post 26915700)
Now, this is just an example so I can make my point and not directed at this particular post or poster, that said, on other forums I frequent when someone is quoted they seem to have a function that only displays some of the quoted text and you have to click on it to display more. Can we implement a function such as this as threads get absolutely cluttered when reading them with this.

My example post is this.

If you get a lot of support for this, we could look into it. But I have never seen anyone mention it before.

essxjay Jul 14, 2016 7:20 pm

I'd do almost anything to see this feature developed. Posters using mobile devices generally do not want to edit anything -- wholesale quotes or whathaveyou -- because it's slow not to mention a PITA.

Finkface Jul 14, 2016 7:27 pm

Add my support for this feature. Many posters will quote the same, long post when replying which is not only unnecessary but annoying to have to scroll down through the same quoted post over and over. Some posters are good and snip or parse long posts but those are usually only the very experienced members.

This would be a great feature.

IBobi Jul 14, 2016 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by essxjay (Post 26918303)
I'd do almost anything to see this feature developed. Posters using mobile devices generally do not want to edit anything -- wholesale quotes or whathaveyou -- because it's slow not to mention a PITA.

Mobile is a whole different animal. If this feature were developed and implemented, it would be for desktop.

Silver Fox Jul 15, 2016 12:35 am


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 26918348)
Mobile is a whole different animal. If this feature were developed and implemented, it would be for desktop.

That's fine and as the OP I obviously support this.

lo2e Jul 15, 2016 6:22 am

I would support this as well, seems like a great idea.

IBobi Jul 15, 2016 12:29 pm

I suggest you take this to talkboard/Carol.

Silver Fox Jul 15, 2016 1:40 pm

Quotes and quoting
 
I originally posted this in Technical Support and Feedback but it was suggested by IBobi I bring it here. So, here is my original post there:

Now, this is just an example so I can make my point and not directed at this particular post or poster, that said, on other forums I frequent when someone is quoted they seem to have a function that only displays some of the quoted text and you have to click on it to display more. Can we implement a function such as this as threads get absolutely cluttered when reading them with this.

My example post is this.

There is support for this in that thread but I do not know how this could be turned into a function/feature on FT.

So, is this something that you can consider with a view to a yes/no decision please? Or do you need more information?

Thanks.

Silver Fox Jul 15, 2016 1:41 pm

I have opened a new thread for this on talkboard.

SkiAdcock Jul 15, 2016 2:20 pm

I'm really confused on why IBobi said this is a TB issue. Sounds like a technical one. Also, while that quote is long (and I can understand it being irritating), I'd say a lot of FTers don't do the entire big quote, but edit it down themselves. Sometimes the mods will do it.

Cheers.

FlyinHawaiian Jul 15, 2016 2:25 pm

I believe IB's intent is for the TB to determine on behalf of the general membership if such an enhancement is needed.

FWIW, I am in favor of such a change as I believe it will improve the user experience.

kipper Jul 15, 2016 4:22 pm

It's never been a big bother to me to snip quotes.

SkiAdcock Jul 15, 2016 5:26 pm


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 26922514)
It's never been a big bother to me to snip quotes.


Me either.

I have noticed a lot of folk in Omni (where the link in the OP is from & which only Omni-enabled folk can view, btw) have a tendency to do more full quotes than other forums.

Not saying it doesn't happen in other forums btw. It does.

I would find it more annoying to have a quote truncated & then have to click on it to find out it's one that was full. At least on the full quote I can just skip the quote & look at the response.

Note I'm speaking as a FTer & not a TB member re: my above comments.

Cheers.

BuildingMyBento Jul 15, 2016 6:43 pm

How about quoting from previous pages?

mia Jul 16, 2016 4:26 am


Originally Posted by BuildingMyBento (Post 26923041)
How about quoting from previous pages?

What is your specific question? There are no fixed pages. Members control the page length and chronology (newest first or oldest first) in their settings.

JDiver Jul 16, 2016 9:20 pm

As the quotation issue is a Technical issue rather than something within the purview of TalkBoard, the discussion has been consolidated here.

/Moderator

GRALISTAIR Jul 17, 2016 10:01 am

Would it increase bandwidth having truncated quotes i.e be a good thing?

kipper Jul 17, 2016 8:31 pm


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 26922789)
Me either.

I have noticed a lot of folk in Omni (where the link in the OP is from & which only Omni-enabled folk can view, btw) have a tendency to do more full quotes than other forums.

Not saying it doesn't happen in other forums btw. It does.

I would find it more annoying to have a quote truncated & then have to click on it to find out it's one that was full. At least on the full quote I can just skip the quote & look at the response.

Note I'm speaking as a FTer & not a TB member re: my above comments.

Cheers.

This. I wouldn't like having to click on it to read the full quote.

Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 26926940)
As the quotation issue is a Technical issue rather than something within the purview of TalkBoard, the discussion has been consolidated here.

/Moderator

Interesting that IBobi suggested this be discussed by TalkBoard to determine if it was something that the community would like to see implemented, and once in the TalkBoard forum, it gets moved back to Technical Support and Feedback.

IBobi Jul 18, 2016 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 26926940)
As the quotation issue is a Technical issue rather than something within the purview of TalkBoard, the discussion has been consolidated here.

/Moderator

I suggested TalkBoard because while it would require tech to adopt this change (if it is even possible), we would never enact such a sweeping change to the way the forums are displayed without a mandate from TB/Carol.

Essentially, I won't pursue something like this unless asked to by the FT top brass. Can you imagine if IB just implemented every change asked for by a single member ;)

JDiver Jul 19, 2016 10:47 am

The issue will be referred to the Community Directr for placement and process.

/Moderator

SanDiego1K Jul 20, 2016 6:43 am


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 26922514)
It's never been a big bother to me to snip quotes.

Community Director weighing in here. I agree with kipper. I routinely cut quotes down to the portion to which I want to refer. I dislike seeing quotes where everything is kept including pictures when all that it being commented on is one line.

I appreciate the OPs desire to do the same, but am not confident that software determining a partial quote really accomplishes much. Members would still need to determine if that is the portion that is relevant to the point that the responder wants to make

Carol
Community Director

Silver Fox Jul 20, 2016 9:45 am

So, the forum I am thinking of that seems to handle it quite well is an army one, and as such is not really for the faint hearted so I will see if I can find an example that is "safe" later. It is built on XenForo if that helps with the manner in which they accomplish truncation. But here is an example and if there are words that put me on the naughty step it was not deliberate, honest, it is just an example of "Click to Expand" !

Example of "Click to Expand for Quotes".

IBobi Jul 20, 2016 3:53 pm


Originally Posted by Silver Fox (Post 26943139)
So, the forum I am thinking of that seems to handle it quite well is an army one, and as such is not really for the faint hearted so I will see if I can find an example that is "safe" later. It is built on XenForo if that helps with the manner in which they accomplish truncation. But here is an example and if there are words that put me on the naughty step it was not deliberate, honest, it is just an example of "Click to Expand" !

Example of "Click to Expand for Quotes".

Ah -- if it is built on a non-VB platform, it won't even be an option that we could easily implement.

And I concur with Carol -- it really is up to the user to take the very minimal step of cutting the part of a quote they don't wish to republish.


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