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Carolinian Jan 22, 2013 7:35 pm

Why is there not a ''worst program'' category in FlyerTalk awards?
 
I have always wondered with the Freddies, and now with the FlyerTalk awards vote, why there is not a ''worst program'' category. To me, it seems that we should offer the airlines both the carrot and the stick in seeking to encourage them to improve, not disembowel programs. We are burying our heads in the sand if we think everything these days is positive with ff changes.

tkey75 Jan 23, 2013 6:14 am

In what awards ceremony is there a "worst" category, other than a satirical one? Awards are to bestow kudos for good behavior. Not punish bad behavior.

SkiAdcock Jan 23, 2013 7:35 am


Originally Posted by tkey75 (Post 20106316)
In what awards ceremony is there a "worst" category, other than a satirical one? Awards are to bestow kudos for good behavior. Not punish bad behavior.

Agree.

I'd also add that TB has nothing to do w/ the Flyertalk Awards. The owners of Flyertalk, Internet Brands, have created the awards & solicited input in the various forums for some of the categories.

Cheers.

kokonutz Jan 23, 2013 7:36 am

I'd be down with a miles and points program version of the Razzies.

A great idea for some motivated FTer! ^

- Biggest devaluation in mile/point value

- Biggest devaluation of elite benefits

- Biggest elimination or reduction of awards

- Program with most difficult to obtain awards (split into free travel/nights and upgrades!)

- Worst overall program

That would be fun!

oliver2002 Jan 23, 2013 7:41 am

As history has shown, its pretty easy to set up an award scheme and claim to represent the people that have spoken. So gather some friends and do it yourself @:-);)! No need to move TB to change the FTAs. :)

kokonutz Jan 23, 2013 8:16 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 20106836)
As history has shown, its pretty easy to set up an award scheme and claim to represent the people that have spoken. So gather some friends and do it yourself @:-);)! No need to move TB to change the FTAs. :)

Do you still have the template!? :D;)

Jenbel Jan 23, 2013 9:09 am

Only if I get to complain about what hotel categories are in Europe ;)

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IBobi Jan 23, 2013 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 20106801)
Agree.

I'd also add that TB has nothing to do w/ the Flyertalk Awards. The owners of Flyertalk, Internet Brands, have created the awards & solicited input in the various forums for some of the categories.

Cheers.

That's a little bit "cart before the horse" actually; we do produce the Awards, but on the request of the FT community ;)

Santander Jan 24, 2013 12:31 am


Originally Posted by kokonutz (Post 20106809)
I'd be down with a miles and points program version of the Razzies.

If you make it, plenty would participate! Perhaps even more than the real FT Awards.

Carolinian Jan 24, 2013 8:13 am

Great idea. If the official vote does not include these categories, then an unofficial one might at least fill the gap. Given the negative trend in ff programs, the stick is really needed more than the carrot these days.

It might help if FT would release the whole rankings of results from top to bottom, instead of just the top ones. That would accomplish the same thing of showing who is on the bottom. That info really needs to get out there.


Originally Posted by kokonutz (Post 20106809)
I'd be down with a miles and points program version of the Razzies.

A great idea for some motivated FTer! ^

- Biggest devaluation in mile/point value

- Biggest devaluation of elite benefits

- Biggest elimination or reduction of awards

- Program with most difficult to obtain awards (split into free travel/nights and upgrades!)

- Worst overall program

That would be fun!


GoAmtrak Jan 24, 2013 12:57 pm

FT "Razzies" is an awkward proposition for IB, for the same reason that Facebook doesn't have a "dislike" button. There's no way to monetize sponsorships from that! That said, if there was any justice in the world, both certainly would exist. :D^

Sabai Jan 25, 2013 10:39 am


Originally Posted by kokonutz (Post 20106809)
I'd be down with a miles and points program version of the Razzies.

A great idea for some motivated FTer! ^

- Biggest devaluation in mile/point value

- Biggest devaluation of elite benefits

- Biggest elimination or reduction of awards

- Program with most difficult to obtain awards (split into free travel/nights and upgrades!)

- Worst overall program

That would be fun!

Delta has this sewn-up

IBobi Jan 29, 2013 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by Carolinian (Post 20114247)
It might help if FT would release the whole rankings of results from top to bottom, instead of just the top ones. That would accomplish the same thing of showing who is on the bottom. That info really needs to get out there.

http://www.flyertalk.com/awards/2012/fullresults.html

;)

UA Fan Feb 15, 2013 5:32 pm


Originally Posted by IBobi (Post 20147508)

Did I miss it or is there info on how many people voted?

BTW is anyone shocked at the results? YQ infested AC is #2 and Skypesos is #3? Above UA?


I agree with the OP especially after the recent merger. I remember the WSJ ranking if DL and the bad press it generated.


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