TAP Air Portugal Offering Status Match
#361
Join Date: May 2015
Location: RBA / TBS
Programs: AF Gold / Accor Gold / Hilton Diamond / TP Silver / A3 Gold
Posts: 2,741
Lets wait and see what other senior members can say about it , but in my opinion if think there is a reset to zero , i might be wrong but this require confirmation
#362
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: South of France
Programs: Flying Blue Silver / TAP & Star Alliance Gold / Accor Hotels Gold / SNCF Grand Voyageur Le Club
Posts: 13
I checked again my account and I have more than 27 000 status miles and 4 TAP flights (the TAP app was not updated yesterday ...).
- On the TAP app, it says I need 50 000 Status miles or 40 TAP flights to renew (I have two graphics showing my progress)
- On the TAP website, it says I need 0 to renew my status
Into the confirmation email I received last July, there is also this sentence: "We inform you that, due to technical reasons, the information you will find in your client area may be different from this*. However, these rules will prevail for clients involved in the Status Match Campaign."
*"this" is the following: "Your new status will be valid for at least 12 months from the date of your Promotion. At the end of the Annual Miles Earning Period, your status will be regulated in accordance with the general regulations applicable to the TAP Miles&Go Programme."
Ok, let's see if somebody has this information!
#363
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: LIS
Programs: FB LTPE, TP Gold, All Gold
Posts: 1,175
fifty_two
The information I don't have is what's happen with the Status Miles/ TAP flights earned if the renewal is achieved before the renewal date (Tap told me that the renewal date never changes):
- These Status miles/ TAP flights will be credited for my "next" renewal
- in all cases, the reset of status miles/TP flights counter is done each July 31th (in my case) and the additional status miles/ TAP flights earned between the day I reached 50 000 miles status (for example in April) and June 31th will be lost
If you have additional/others information, I am interested!
The information I don't have is what's happen with the Status Miles/ TAP flights earned if the renewal is achieved before the renewal date (Tap told me that the renewal date never changes):
- These Status miles/ TAP flights will be credited for my "next" renewal
- in all cases, the reset of status miles/TP flights counter is done each July 31th (in my case) and the additional status miles/ TAP flights earned between the day I reached 50 000 miles status (for example in April) and June 31th will be lost
If you have additional/others information, I am interested!
#365
Join Date: May 2015
Location: RBA / TBS
Programs: AF Gold / Accor Gold / Hilton Diamond / TP Silver / A3 Gold
Posts: 2,741
questions about TP policies
When TP says that "in last month of validity , this card can be used only if same level has been reached"
that brings me few questions
thanks
When TP says that "in last month of validity , this card can be used only if same level has been reached"
that brings me few questions
- by "using the card" = they mean that all benefits attached to status ? Or just me using the card where its required, for instance lounges ?
- So essentially it means TP status is only valid for 11 months , if not renewed , and to get that last 12th month you need to collect all your status miles within those 11 months ??
- What happens if i take 11,5 months to get all status miles , and my last journey , which will help me pass the threshold , start during the 11th month a finish during the 12th month ?? My benefits then won't apply during return trip only ???
- it seems the conversion option from bonus miles to status miles is not possible for people during their status match year, is it correct or not ?
thanks
#366
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 63,736
It would probably help to have that last post split into a worked example (it can be hypothetical) since it's easier to untangle.
But from the posts above, the way the match works is that temporarily your upgrade year (and yes it can be 11 months) resets the counter over your actual renewal month. So let's say your standard renewal month is February but your upgrade year is May. The clock keeps turning in February 2023 and continues until May 2023. In May 2023: have you hit the upgrade target yes or no. If yes, then you renew to February 2024 - but here's the crucial bit, they partly clear down the clock, they remove the earnings to February 2023, but any flights credited from February 2023 to May 2023 stay on the clock.
Therefore renewal in February 2024 (to 2025) depends on you hitting the standard, non upgrade targets in the 12 month period ending February 2024, NOT the period from May 2023 to February 2024.
Note that if TAP is worried about losing too many Golds it will launch a double status mile promotion, there seems to be one of these every 3 months at the moment.
But from the posts above, the way the match works is that temporarily your upgrade year (and yes it can be 11 months) resets the counter over your actual renewal month. So let's say your standard renewal month is February but your upgrade year is May. The clock keeps turning in February 2023 and continues until May 2023. In May 2023: have you hit the upgrade target yes or no. If yes, then you renew to February 2024 - but here's the crucial bit, they partly clear down the clock, they remove the earnings to February 2023, but any flights credited from February 2023 to May 2023 stay on the clock.
Therefore renewal in February 2024 (to 2025) depends on you hitting the standard, non upgrade targets in the 12 month period ending February 2024, NOT the period from May 2023 to February 2024.
Note that if TAP is worried about losing too many Golds it will launch a double status mile promotion, there seems to be one of these every 3 months at the moment.
#367
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: South of France
Programs: Flying Blue Silver / TAP & Star Alliance Gold / Accor Hotels Gold / SNCF Grand Voyageur Le Club
Posts: 13
thanks , so you confirmed what i expected . Now Laudl13 you have the answer you need
I did not find any information about this point but I am also very interested by this one. It could be a precious help to achieve the status renewal ...
#368
Join Date: May 2015
Location: RBA / TBS
Programs: AF Gold / Accor Gold / Hilton Diamond / TP Silver / A3 Gold
Posts: 2,741
It would probably help to have that last post split into a worked example (it can be hypothetical) since it's easier to untangle.
But from the posts above, the way the match works is that temporarily your upgrade year (and yes it can be 11 months) resets the counter over your actual renewal month. .
But from the posts above, the way the match works is that temporarily your upgrade year (and yes it can be 11 months) resets the counter over your actual renewal month. .
So any clues about my other questions , especially about the conversion option from bonus miles to status miles
#369
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 63,736
https://www.flytap.com/en-gb/terms-a...s-miles-and-go
So while I don't know for certain, I don't think it's going to help with the initial match / challenge. Otherwise you need between 2,000 and 10,000 Bonus mies which convert at 50% to status miles.
#370
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: South of France
Programs: Flying Blue Silver / TAP & Star Alliance Gold / Accor Hotels Gold / SNCF Grand Voyageur Le Club
Posts: 13
What I understand is that you can convert 10 000 miles into 5 000 status miles to remain Gold and that you can activate this conversion only when you reach 45 000 status miles and not before (point 31 of Terms and conditions mentioned into the previous post)
#371
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: clue is in the nym
Programs: BA Gold, TP Gold, VS Gold, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 826
From what I can make out - and it would be good to hear from other people's experiences - Conversion is quite limited. It relates to both to the mile earning period and the year end period, as well as the original renewal targets. See Terms and Condition point 31 Mile Shop
https://www.flytap.com/en-gb/terms-a...s-miles-and-go
So while I don't know for certain, I don't think it's going to help with the initial match / challenge. Otherwise you need between 2,000 and 10,000 Bonus mies which convert at 50% to status miles.
https://www.flytap.com/en-gb/terms-a...s-miles-and-go
So while I don't know for certain, I don't think it's going to help with the initial match / challenge. Otherwise you need between 2,000 and 10,000 Bonus mies which convert at 50% to status miles.
If you are Silver and want to move up to Gold:
- You must have at least 60,000 Status Miles that can be converted;
- You can convert up to 20,000 Bonus Miles, which become 10,000 Status Miles;
- You need 70,000 Status Miles to attain Gold status.
- You must have at least 45,000 Status Miles in the account, which can be converted;
- You can convert up to 10,000 Bonus Miles into 5,000 Status Miles;
- To remain Gold you need 50,000 Status Miles.
What this means is that you cannot initiate a Bonus Miles to Status Miles conversion until you are within 5000 Status Miles of the target level e.g. to retain Gold you need to have already earned at least 45000 Status Miles in your collection year before the system will aloow you to top them up with a Bonus Miles conversion.
This year TAP are also running an alternative 'accounting period' for those struggling to meet renewal targets. Potentially most useful to those with mid-year anniversary dates, if you haven't met the renewal threshold by your natuaral 'collection year' end TAP will look at miles accumulated between 1st January and 31st December 2022 and if this total meets the threshold for renewal status will be maintained even if the number of miles earned during you actual collection year was less than the threshold.
Note that this is an either/or count, not in combnation i.e if your collection year is June 21-22 you must meet the target either between June 21-22 or Jan-Dec 22, not Jun 21-Dec 22!
#372
#373
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: South of France
Programs: Flying Blue Silver / TAP & Star Alliance Gold / Accor Hotels Gold / SNCF Grand Voyageur Le Club
Posts: 13
If you could provide feedback when you do that it would be very nice ; I assume it will interest some people (including me!)
Last edited by Laudl13; Nov 15, 2022 at 11:43 am Reason: Grammar
#374
Join Date: May 2015
Location: RBA / TBS
Programs: AF Gold / Accor Gold / Hilton Diamond / TP Silver / A3 Gold
Posts: 2,741
No , i mean that after my next trip i will pass the threshold to retain my status for next year
It will take place in Q1 2023 , so i will monitor the situation and let you know what happen (if any changes noticed)
It will take place in Q1 2023 , so i will monitor the situation and let you know what happen (if any changes noticed)