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Old Oct 9, 2013, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by GBM.flights
So it's official:
Now that we are going to have direct access to the heart of the Amazon, I would want the 13th destination to be Cuiabα for access to Mato Grosso and the Pantanal.

I know, will never happen. Too thin a route, too short of a runway at CGB. But hey, let's be creative. Operate this with an A320 as LIS-(BVC|RAI|VXE)-FEN-CGB. Get fifth freedom and cabotage rights. Allow stopovers (too brutal otherwise, on an A320), and people can get some truly interesting destinations along the way and some really unique vacations out of this route.

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Old Oct 10, 2013, 8:21 am
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Wow! This would be a new island-hopper to match the ex-CO one. . It'll never happen though. How many of the A320 birds are ETOPS certified?
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Old Oct 19, 2013, 9:56 am
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It seems that a triangular LIS-PTY-BOG-LIS (or the other way around) is expected to be announced soon.
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Old Oct 19, 2013, 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by CaptainMiles
.... I would want the 13th destination to be Cuiabα for access to Mato Grosso and the Pantanal...... Operate this with an A320 as LIS-(BVC|RAI|VXE)-FEN-CGB. Get fifth freedom and cabotage rights. Allow stopovers (too brutal otherwise, on an A320), and people can get some truly interesting destinations along the way and some really unique vacations out of this route.
And I thought Bucharest was crazy ....

Have you been smoking ?
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Old Oct 21, 2013, 1:57 am
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Originally Posted by tff
It seems that a triangular LIS-PTY-BOG-LIS (or the other way around) is expected to be announced soon.
You're usually well informed tff, so I'll take this as a given.
IMO It ticks all the boxes:
- Diversify from Brazil
- 2 *A hubs (allow onward traffic with Avianca and Copa)
- Not too much competition, yet, from Europe.

Originally Posted by CaptainMiles
LIS-(BVC|RAI|VXE)-FEN-CGB.
I like the FEN part. I was checking flights from NAT/REC to FEN and it's extortion.

And in the news today TP is negotiating the leasing of 2 additional A320's [PT only]. So there is a chance for the dream to come true
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Old Oct 22, 2013, 9:08 pm
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Originally Posted by GBM.flights
You're usually well informed tff, so I'll take this as a given.
IMO It ticks all the boxes:
- Diversify from Brazil
- 2 *A hubs (allow onward traffic with Avianca and Copa)
- Not too much competition, yet, from Europe.
Let me just add that I'm not entirely sure. There's a rumour among TP employees and the mass media have been talking about it. It is because there are two concurring sources that I give it some credit.
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Old Oct 28, 2013, 3:34 pm
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S14 frequency increases to Brazil

TP press release:

TAP boosts Rio, Salvador, Belo Horizonte, Porto Alegre and Natal
Five cities in Brazil will have another weekly flight to Lisbon next summer and TAP will then offer 82 connections a week to 12 Brazilian destinations, i.e. between Lisbon and Rio de Janeiro (14 flights a week), Sγo Paulo (11), Belo Horizonte (7), Fortaleza (7), Recife (7), Salvador (7), Brasilia (7), Porto Alegre (6), Natal (4), Campinas (3), Belem/Manaus (3) and between Porto and Rio de Janeiro (3) and Sao Paulo (3).
At present TAP operates 13 flights a week to Rio de Janeiro, and this will rise to 14, which is the same as the provision of two daily Lisbon – Rio flights.
Salvador and Belo Horizonte are currently served by six flights a week, and next summer there will be daily flights (seven a week).
Demonstrating the latest success on the TAP Brazilian route network, Porto Alegre will have six instead of five flights to Lisbon each week. There will be four instead of three weekly flights to Natal.
With these extra flights, plus the already announced three flights a week on the Lisbon - Manaus - Belιm route, TAP will be operating a total of 82 weekly flights between Portugal and 12 cities in Brazil from next summer. That is eight more than were operating this year.
- See more at: http://www.tapportugal.com/PressRele....bRoBx71z.dpuf
Impressive. I think these additional flights will only add to the top line. And a new C class would definitely be a game changer IMO.

With 8 additional flights (and considering some optimization to improve ac utilizaiton) at least one of the new A330 is fully utilized.
Let's see if what are the plans (considering remaining utilization of second aircraft) and if it's and additional city in Brazil (The "latest success on the TP Brazilian network - Porto Alegre", is quite outstanding so I would not exclude a new one) and/or tff's mentioned BOG-PTY.
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 5:52 am
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Palal already mentioned this. LIN service to be cancelled. Upside increased frequency to MXP
Per Airline route:
http://airlineroute.net/2013/11/18/t...ign=tp-mxp-w13

TAP Portugal has cancelled operations at Milan Linate airport, as the Star Alliance member consolidates Milan operation at Malpensa Airport from 27OCT13. In Winter 2013/14 season, the airline operates 17 weekly Lisbon – Milan Malpensa service, and increases to 22 weekly from 30MAR14. From 01JUN14, TAP operates 25 weekly flights.
The following schedule is effective 01JUN14.
TP802 LIS0655 – 1035MXP 319 D
TP806 LIS0900 – 1240MXP 319 x135
TP804 LIS1350 – 1730MXP EQV D
TP808 LIS1945 – 2320MXP 319 D
TP807 MXP0635 – 0825LIS 319 D
TP803 MXP1120 – 1305LIS 319 D
TP801 MXP1325 – 1510LIS 319 x135
TP809 MXP1815 – 1955LIS EQV D

Last edited by GBM.flights; Nov 18, 2013 at 6:26 am Reason: quote corrected
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Old Nov 28, 2013, 10:26 am
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TRN gone according to airlineroute

TAP Portugal since 27OCT13 has cancelled Lisbon – Turin service, where it previously operated 3-4 weekly service. The airline’s Summer 2014 schedule is not displaying operations for this route as well.

The following was the airline’s Summer peak season operation in 2013:

TP822 LIS0750 – 1120TRN 319 27
TP822 LIS1400 – 1735TRN 100 35

TP823 TRN1205 – 1345LIS 319 27
TP823 TRN1830 – 2005LIS 100 35
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Old Dec 3, 2013, 8:53 am
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Yes, well TRN is only a 2-hr bus ride from MXP, so I think they decided that the numbers don't add up for TRN.
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Old Dec 14, 2013, 7:36 pm
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New routes announced for Summer'14:
LIS-BOG/PTY-LIS
LIS-TLL
LIS-NTE
LIS-HAJ
LIS-BEG
LIS-LED
LIS-GOT

New planes: 4 A320s and 2 A332s

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jySdEx_pvNo.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 3:12 am
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Originally Posted by tff
New routes announced for Summer'14:
LIS-BOG/PTY-LIS
LIS-TLL
LIS-NTE
LIS-HAJ
LIS-BEG
LIS-LED
LIS-GOT
[...]
I think they're all very decent additions to the TP network except TLL.
They all add something:
BOG/PTY - diversify from Brazil, give IB a run for their money with BOG and allow Central American connections with Copa
NTE - seventh (IIRC) destination in France and one typically underserved by legacies even AF.
HAJ - Trade Fairs, Industry around. LH with some codeshare could see a flying start.
BEG/LED/GOT - Seems to target second cities in markets that are doing well (I consider BEG as the second city to ZAG, not very PC, I know)

For TLL I cannot really see the full picture.

The only concern I see is that these are also lengthy sectors for the medium haul. Let's see if the costs do pile up.
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Old Dec 19, 2013, 11:01 am
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Airline route published today the schedule for BOG/PTY - 4 weekly

TAP Portugal from 01JUL14 is introducing new destinations in Latin America, with 4 weekly Lisbon – Bogota – Panama City – Lisbon operation, on board Airbus A330-200 aircraft. Reservation for this route opened around 18/19DEC13.

TP131 LIS1200 – 1555BOG1655 – 1825PTY1940 – 1100+1LIS 332 x357

TAP does not have local traffic rights on Bogota – Panama City sector.
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Old Dec 23, 2013, 2:27 am
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NTE,HAJ,TLL schedules published

Airline route published NTE,HAJ,TLL schedules

TAP Portugal from July 2014 is expanding European operations, with service introductions to Nantes, Hanover and Tallinn. Reservations for these destinations are now open.

eff 01JUL14 Lisbon – Nantes 6 weekly
TP422 LIS0840 – 1140NTE ER4 24
TP422 LIS1300 – 1600NTE ER4 7
TP422 LIS1820 – 2120NTE ER4 156

TP423 NTE1220 – 1320LIS ER4 24
TP423 NTE1640 – 1740LIS ER4 7
TP423 NTE2205 – 2305LIS ER4 156

eff 03JUL14 Lisbon – Hanover 4 weekly
TP524 LIS0925 – 1335HAJ 32S 146
TP524 LIS1530 – 1940HAJ 319 7

TP523 HAJ1420 – 1630LIS 32S 146
TP523 HAJ2025 – 2235LIS 319 7

eff 04JUL14 Lisbon – Tallinn 3 weekly
TP1246 LIS0015 – 0650TLL 319 5
TP1246 LIS2200 – 0435+1TLL 320 16

TP1247 TLL0525 – 0815LIS 320 27
TP1247 TLL0740 – 1030LIS 319 5

TAP is also planning to launch Belgrade, Gothenburg and St. Petersburg, however reservations remain unavailable.
TLL not surprisingly joins the late night LIS departure bank for an overnight flight (like HEL, OTP and DME) and NTE is operated by Portugalia.

If I have to guess LED will also fall in the same category of late night from LIS
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Old Dec 25, 2013, 1:47 pm
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And here's GOT:

TP772 LIS0950 – 1435GOT 32S x257
TP771 GOT1520 – 1815LIS 32S x257
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