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TAP Air Portugal [TP] new routes and changes (later 2018 onward)

TAP Air Portugal [TP] new routes and changes (later 2018 onward)

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2017-02-08:
Added future service to ALG, STR, LPA, OTP, BUD, CGN
Added future service to ABJ and YYZ

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Old Jan 3, 20, 8:19 am
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Originally Posted by Bear96 View Post
Interesting timings. Do any other airlines have eastbound overnight transatlantic flights departing the U.S. after midnight?
AF used had a 1am departure for a couple of years.

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Also interesting westbound because it bad for connections in EWR with a 2230 arrival from LIS. Lots of domestic U.S. connecting opportunities on *A / UA via EWR, but not that late at night. I know there is a huge Portuguese community in Newark but it seems like they are leaving some money on the table by depending only on EWR / NYC O/D traffic.
Indeed...
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Old Jan 7, 20, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Bear96 View Post
Interesting timings. Do any other airlines have eastbound overnight transatlantic flights departing the U.S. after midnight?

Also interesting westbound because it bad for connections in EWR with a 2230 arrival from LIS. Lots of domestic U.S. connecting opportunities on *A / UA via EWR, but not that late at night. I know there is a huge Portuguese community in Newark but it seems like they are leaving some money on the table by depending only on EWR / NYC O/D traffic.
Could they have issues getting slots in either EWR or LIS?

They have a similarly-timed flight to YYZ.
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Old Jan 10, 20, 10:08 am
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per airlineroute

TAP Air Portugal starting next month is expanding service to Senegal, offering 9 weekly Lisbon – Dakar flights, instead of 7. The frequency expansion is scheduled from 07FEB20, although selected period throughout 2020 will see 7 weekly flights.

This route is operated by a mix of Airbus A320 and A321 aircraft. Following schedule is effective 07FEB20 – 28MAR20.

TP1485 LIS2050 – 0105+1DSS EQV D
TP1487 LIS2205 – 0215+1DSS 32Q 5
TP1487 LIS2205 – 0220+1DSS 32Q 7

TP1482 DSS0205 – 0600LIS EQV D
TP1486 DSS0320 – 0720LIS 32Q 6
TP1486 DSS0320 – 0715LIS 32Q 1
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Old Jan 10, 20, 11:59 am
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Originally Posted by GBM.flights View Post
They used to do 12-14 flights/wk on that route at one point not too many years ago.
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Old Jan 20, 20, 1:24 pm
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Originally Posted by GBM.flights View Post
LIS-SCQ (Santiago de Compostela) launch (daily)
per airline route. Surprisingly SCQ will be double daily.
TAP Air Portugal in summer 2020 season plans to offer new air service to Spain, where it schedules Lisbon Santiago de Compostela route. From 05JUN20, ATR72 (by White Airways) will operate this route twice daily.

TP1068 LIS0830 1105SCQ AT7 D
TP1070 LIS1405 1640SCQ AT7 D

TP1069 SCQ1145 1210LIS AT7 D
TP1071 SCQ1720 1745LIS AT7 D

The airline will continue to offer Bus service on Porto Vigo Bus Station Santiago de Compostela Bus Station routing.
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Old Jan 24, 20, 3:37 am
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Originally Posted by GBM.flights View Post
per airline route. Surprisingly SCQ will be double daily.
Not really that surprising - probably enough connecting traffic.
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Old Jan 24, 20, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Palal View Post
Not really that surprising - probably enough connecting traffic.
You don't think it is? The press release, last year, announcing it, did not mention this multi daily service (would have been a good selling point), and LCG, VGO in Galicia with more economic potential were launched as single daily. both have more than double the population in their respective cities than SCQ)
Multiple daily is always beneficial and could command a premium IMO (shorter connections) but i can't remember this double daily strategy from the start anywhere in the latest Spanish new routes (OVD, ALC, LPA, and the above 2).
So for me, definitely surprising.
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Old Feb 8, 20, 5:39 am
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Originally Posted by tff View Post
It seems that the "Ponte Area" OPO-MAD flights will be operated by ATR72 and that the schedule will be the following:
on OPO-MAD

I was checking a few flights and it seems that the OPO-MAD started to be loaded (slightly adjusted schedule vs this previous post)

until 28MAR - 3 daily
Departures from OPO:
07:30 13:25 21:40

Departures from MAD:
05:45 10:40 16:35
As of 29MAR - 4 daily
Departures from OPO:
07:30 12:05 16:45 21:15

Departures from MAD:
06:05 10:40 15:15 19:55
As of 1JUL 6 daily
Departures from OPO:
06:00 07:30 12:05 16:45 19:40 21:15

Departures from MAD:
06:05 09:10 10:40 15:15 19:55 22:50
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Old Feb 18, 20, 8:12 am
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I've heard it on the grapevine that the following destinations should be announced soon: LIS-LIM, -MCO, -CPT, -CUN, -BEY, -AGA, and OPO-SID.
At the same time, the following routes should go seasonal, operating exclusively during IATA summer: LIS-HEL, -NAP, -NTE.
Finally, the following routes should be axed: OPO-BRU, -MUC.
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Old Feb 23, 20, 9:26 am
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Interesting to hear about OPO-MUC being axed, I remember the loads being high whenever I took that flight.
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Old Feb 25, 20, 6:55 am
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I've heard it on the grapevine that the following destinations should be announced soon: LIS-LIM, -MCO, -CPT, -CUN, -BEY, -AGA, and OPO-SID.
At the same time, the following routes should go seasonal, operating exclusively during IATA summer: LIS-HEL, -NAP, -NTE.
Finally, the following routes should be axed: OPO-BRU, -MUC.
LIM,CPT,CUN and BEY? i see the TP route planning team took out the dart board again to pick new routes... yikes. My guess, they will end up like BEG,TLL and others as a single season wonder.
They know much more about the topic, but MEX would be top of my priority list

on OPO-BRU, if they cannot make this work, none of the above will.
it started as a double daily
now it's a single flight 5x weekly.
Together with SN all departures (up to 3 a day for which they codeshare) ex-BRU are between 10:15-13:40. hardly business and even leisure suitable.
Anecdotally a friend of mine was always flying OPO-BRU via LIS as the direct flight (evening flight) was outrageously expensive, and every time he took was fairly full (including Euro MP's and staff onboard)

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Old Feb 28, 20, 12:11 pm
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Originally Posted by GBM.flights View Post
LIM,CPT,CUN and BEY? i see the TP route planning team took out the dart board again to pick new routes... yikes. My guess, they will end up like BEG,TLL and others as a single season wonder.
They know much more about the topic, but MEX would be top of my priority list

on OPO-BRU, if they cannot make this work, none of the above will.
it started as a double daily
now it's a single flight 5x weekly.
Together with SN all departures (up to 3 a day for which they codeshare) ex-BRU are between 10:15-13:40. hardly business and even leisure suitable.
Anecdotally a friend of mine was always flying OPO-BRU via LIS as the direct flight (evening flight) was outrageously expensive, and every time he took was fairly full (including Euro MP's and staff onboard)
I'm puzzled myself as well. LIM is allegedly justified with the argument that there are no nonstop flights to Europe on Star Alliance carriers and BEY with connecting traffic to Brazil.
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Old Feb 29, 20, 3:51 am
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I'm puzzled myself as well. LIM is allegedly justified with the argument that there are no nonstop flights to Europe on Star Alliance carriers and BEY with connecting traffic to Brazil.
Looks like he death throes of the carrier. Thrashing about trying to find the magic long-haul market which will allow it to raise average revenues to levels above the rubbish place they are at now. Lima has some sense as a destination and hub, now Bogota is well tied in: but Cancun - another low-revenue leisure route.
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Old Feb 29, 20, 3:59 am
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Originally Posted by tff View Post
[..] and BEY with connecting traffic to Brazil.
Carlos Ghosn + F&F? :-) I had guessed BEY would be for that (+US connections), just not sure if that would be a priority.
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Old Mar 3, 20, 7:58 am
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Expansion is suspended until further notice due to the current economic environment, the coronavirus, and lack of slots at LIS.
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