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Comments Welcome, Voting Underway: New TalkBoard Guidelines
Moved by techgirl and seconded by bhatnasx to adopt the following TalkBoard Guidelines:
SECTION 1: INTRODUCTION FlyerTalk is an internet bulletin board owned and operated by Internet Brands under the guidance and day-to-day management of FlyerTalk founder Randy Petersen, collectively generally referred to herein as ‘the FlyerTalk host.’ FlyerTalk’s purpose is to bring together frequent flyers and users of other travel-related frequency programs as well as people with an interest in those programs to discuss loyalty programs, travel and travel-related issues. In an effort to provide maximum poster input into the content and organization of FlyerTalk, Randy Petersen created the TalkBoard and empowered it to make recommendations with regard to the management, organization and content of FlyerTalk. The TalkBoard exists at the pleasure of Randy and neither he nor any other entity is required to accept the recommendations of the TalkBoard. These guidelines provide for the mission, organization and procedures of the TalkBoard. These guidelines supersede any and all previous guidelines, precedents and procedures. SECTION 2: MISSION A. The FlyerTalk TalkBoard (TB) exists to: i. represent the interests of the FlyerTalk membership at large to the FlyerTalk host B. The TB accomplishes this by: ii. act as a representative body for the FlyerTalk membership iii. serve in an advisory capacity to the FlyerTalk host iv. provide feedback to the FlyerTalk host with regard to the management of Flyertalk i. prioritizing recommendations on product/service enhancements for FlyerTalk SECTION 3: BOARD ORGANIZATIONii. responding to action requests from the FlyerTalk host for issues/situations that fall outside the scope of established policies, procedures, organization and universe of FlyerTalk’s forums iii. responding to requests from posters with regard to requests for and enquires about enhancements and changes to the structure, organization and universe of Flyertalk’s forums iv. ensuring on-going feedback between the FlyerTalk host, his representatives, and its posters v. providing input on and reaction to software upgrades, plug-ins and other changes vi. periodically reviewing FlyerTalk's Terms of Service to ensure they best serve and protect FlyerTalk and its posters vii. considering spam waivers for charitable solicitations to assess whether they represent real organisations and consider their suitability for FT A. TB Members i. The TB will consist of 9 voting members, chosen by popular election. The FT host can serve as an ad hoc TB member at will and may appoint ex officio members to the TB. B. Election/Selectionii. TB members must be active, registered members of the FT Community. i. TB Members a. Interested candidates must be able to commit to minimum weekly discussion and voting participation then submit a profile specifying their area of primary interest and involvement in the FT Community (e.g. which miles/points area is of primary interest), accompanied by a statement describing their reason(s) for choosing to be a candidate. b. It is the goal and intention of the FT host that on the First of November, the names of the candidates will be announced so that FT Members will have an opportunity to become acquainted with them; however, the date may be changed at the discretion of the FT host. For a minimum of 2 weeks following the announcement of candidates, FT Members will vote and FlyerTalk Management will tally results. The new TB member(s) will be announced within ten days of the end of the vote closure. The Term of these newly elected TB members will begin within a week of that announcement. c. Campaigning is restricted to the current year's TalkBoard Election forum and members' signature lines. In order to respect the privacy of all members, campaigning by the TalkBoard candidates may not be done via the FlyerTalk Private Message system or via mass-mailed FlyerTalk email campaigns. Any TalkBoard candidate found to be mass-emailing via the FlyerTalk email system or abusing the FlyerTalk Private Message system for the purpose of campaigning will be removed from the ballot by the FlyerTalk host and will not be eligible to run in that year's TalkBoard elections. d. TalkBoard members represent the community and are therefore expected to act accordingly and within the guidelines of the FlyerTalk Terms of Service. In order to be eligible to run for TalkBoard, members must be in good standing in the FlyerTalk community. The term “in good standing” is defined here as being a member with full posting privileges throughout the official campaigning and voting timeframe as well as having not received an upheld 30-day suspension after these new TalkBoard guidelines go into effect, INSERT DATE HERE OF RATIFICATION HERE, eg. AUGUST 15, 2008. Should a candidate be suspended during that timeframe and the suspension is upheld by the FT host, the candidate is deemed ineligible to run for a position on the TalkBoard until two years after that 30-day suspension ends. Any suspension of a candidate may be reviewed & overturned by the FT host, at which point, the candidate will be eligible to run for office. The FT host may give a dispensation to any member wishing to stand for TB who has a 30 day up-held suspension within the qualification period, where he believes that circumstances may warrant it. Such circumstances may include, but not be limited to - sufficient evidence that the member has learned from the experience - the reason for the suspension being one which is extremely unlikely to affect their ability to represent the membership of TB ii. TB Officers C. Responsibilitiesa. The TB shall elect a President to serve a one year term no later than 4 weeks after the general election. b. Any voting member of the TalkBoard with access to the private TB forum may run in the presidential election. c. The presidential elections shall be conducted as follows: Any candidate garnering more than 2/3 of the total TB vote in the primary presidential vote shall be immediately declared the winner. If there are more than 2 candidates in the primary vote and none receive 2/3 of the total vote then a final vote shall be held between the top two vote-getters. In the final vote, the President shall be decided by a simple majority vote. If there are no more than two candidates for President, then there will be no primary election before the final vote and a simple majority will elect. d. Once the new President is elected the TB shall elect a Vice President/Secretary to serve a one year term. Elections shall be conducted in an identical manner to the presidential election and shall be completed within 2 weeks of the election of the President. e. Elections of the President and Vice President/Secretary shall be held by secret ballot. f. Once both officers have been elected the Vice President/Secretary shall post a thread in both the public TalkBoard Topics forum as well as the Town Hall forum noting the election of the new officers. i. TalkBoard Members D. Term of Service a. All TalkBoard members are Flyertalkers first and foremost. TB members are expected to conform to the TOS and conduct themselves with civility in a spirit of cooperation for the betterment of FlyerTalk. Personal attacks, disrespectfully calling other TB members’ motives into question and petty bickering and sniping will not be tolerated. ii. TalkBoard Officersb. TB members may be drawn from a variety of cultures which may mean that cultural mores of TB members are different. TB members are expected to be mindful of this fact and respect cultural differences as to what is considered polite and appropriate behavior. c. Official TB announcements should be made only by the TB President or Vice-President/Secretary (or their designee) in the manner prescribed by these guidelines. d. TalkBoard members are encouraged to participate in public dialogue with regard to the mission of the TB and to gather as much input from posters as possible. This includes but is not limited to: asking for input, posting threads in affected forums when a proposal is under consideration that might affect that forum (with the indulgence of that forum’s moderators), making their personal case for or against a proposed change, participating in brainstorming, etc. However, TB members and particularly officers shall be careful to clearly note whether they are speaking on behalf of the entire TB, when they are speaking in an official capacity in their role as a TB member or officer and when they are speaking for themselves as a FlyerTalker. TB members are expected to honestly represent the actions of the TB, themselves and other TB members on the public forum when doing so. e. The TB forum is private. No TB member shall present information, arguments or words of another TB member or the FT host from the private TB forum anywhere on FlyerTalk unless they have the express consent of that TB member or the FT host to do so. TB members are free to present their own arguments and words from the private TB forum in the public forums as they see fit and the TOS and these guidelines allows. f. TB members are expected to adhere to these guidelines. g. TB members are expected to familiarize themselves with Roberts Rules of Order. h. when new TB members are elected, the FT President will send them a link to the public domain version of Roberts Rules of Order to enable them to carry out 3.C.i.g. a. President: Will act as executive officer of TB, ensuring that timely consideration of issues takes place, keeping the parliamentary processes flowing, and providing liaison between individual TalkBoard members and the FlyerTalk host. The President will also serve as a liaison between the TalkBoard and the moderator corps. The President shall comply with and enforce these guidelines as well as the FT TOS in the private TB forum. In the event that a TB member who is not already a moderator is elected as TB president, the host shall decide who shall have moderator powers in the private TB forum with the understanding that the assigned moderator, if other than the TB President, shall use such power in close coordination with the TB President. In situations where there is lack of guidance from these guidelines or Roberts Rules of Order with regard to the conduct of TB business or the responsibilities and obligations of TB members, the President shall provide such guidance and/or clarity with the advice of the FT host until such time that these guidelines are amended to provide such guidance and/or clarity. b. Vice President/Secretary: The Vice President/Secretary shall in the event of the absence or inability of the President to exercise his office become acting president of the TalkBoard with all the rights, privileges and powers as if he had been the duly elected President. The Vice President/Secretary is also responsible for recording and announcing TB motions and votes in both the TalkBoard Topics public forum and the Town Hall forum as provided for under TalkBoard’s voting and public notice guidelines and in doing so shall work with the public TB forum moderators to ensure that TB business on the public forum is handled effectively and in compliance with TB rules and procedures. i. TB Member: The term of a TB member shall be two (2) years. There is no limit to the consecutive or cumulative number of terms to which a member may be re-elected. Five TB members shall be elected during odd numbered years and four TB members shall be elected during even numbered years. E. Resignation/Terminationii. TB Officers: The term of a TB Officer shall be one (1) year; however, there are no restrictions regarding consecutive or cumulative terms. i. A vacancy in the TB shall be declared if a member: F. Motions for censure and removala. Resigns b. Is removed by the FlyerTalk Host for any reason including after recommendation by the TB to do so under these guidelines. c. The vacancy will be filled using the process proscribed by these guidelines. i. Any voting TB member may make a motion for the censure or removal of another TB member or officer. Censure or removal of an elected TB member is a grave matter and should only be employed in severe circumstances. It should never be employed based on a disagreement of policy, personality or style. G. Automatic recommendation for removalii. A motion to censure or remove shall include the valid grounds for censure or removal as allowed by these guidelines. iii. Should such a motion receive a second the President shall initiate a sticky poll to allow TB members to vote on the matter, which shall take place by secret ballot. iv. A 2/3 majority shall be required for approval of such a motion. v. In the event of the passage of a motion to censure or remove, the TB Vice President/Secretary shall post the motion along with the results of the censure or removal vote in the Town Hall forum along with a statement by the TB member should he or she desire to include one and then ask the TB forums moderator to lock that thread 'per TB guidelines.' Should the motion fail there is to be no public notice of the motion whatsoever. vi. In the event of the passage of a motion to remove, the President shall submit a request for removal and replacement of said member to the FlyerTalk Host for consideration. vii. Grounds for censure or removal of a TB member: a. Fails to participate in three consecutive discussions on pending motions without prior notice vii. In all cases the FlyerTalk Host makes the final determination whether to remove a TB member.b. Misses three consecutive calls to vote without prior notice c. Is no longer an active, registered member of the FT Community d. Demonstrates by his/her actions that he/she is not able to actively participate in the TB duties e. Acts in wilful and gross serious, repeated violation of the FT member Terms of Service (TOS) f. Acts in wilful and gross serious, repeated violation of these guidelines g. Abuses the censure and removal process i. A TB member who receives a 30-day suspension that is not overturned by the end of that suspension shall be automatically recommended to the FT host for removal from the TalkBoard at the conclusion of that suspension. The FT host and/or the TB President or Vice President/Secretary (if the President is unavailable) is to inform the TB of when this clause comes into effect. H. Replacementii. A TB member that receives a permanent ban that is not overturned within 30-days shall be automatically recommended to the TB host for removal from the TalkBoard 30 days after the ban is issued. The FT host and/or the TB President or Vice President/Secretary (if the president is unavailable) is to inform the TB of when this clause comes into effect. iii. In all cases the FlyerTalk Host makes the final determination whether to remove a TB member. i. In the event of a resignation or removal from TB his replacement shall be the candidate who received the highest vote in the most recent election without having been elected. SECTION 4: GENERAL OPERATION, VOTING AND PUBLIC NOTICE PROCEDURESii. A second vacancy from TalkBoard would be filled by the next candidate in line, and this process will continue until there are no more candidates available. If it reaches that point, the Administrator will appoint a member. iii. Once the date for a new election has been announced, no vacancy on TalkBoard will be filled until after that election. At that point, the results of the new election will determine who will fill vacancies. A. General Operating Procedures i. TB generally operates under a relaxed Roberts Rules of Order (RRoO). While the TB does not strictly adhere to RRoO, RRoO serve as a general guide for the President in maintaining order during TB’s proceedings and in cases where controversy over proceedings occur. Decisions of the President are penultimate, superseded only by the will of the FT host. B. Motions and Secondsii. The FT host may halt discussion or nullify recommendations on any issue being considered by the TalkBoard that interferes with the overall operation and well-being of the Flyer Talk web site. The FT host may also reserve certain areas as being outside the TB purview. These areas may be amended at any time by the FT host. i. Any member of the TB can raise a topic regarding any issue that falls under the above stated mission of the TB either in the public TB Topics forum or in the private TalkBoard forum. C. Voting Proceduresii. 48 hours after a topic has been raised by a TB member either in the public TB Topics forum or in the private TalkBoard forum, any member of the TB can make a motion regarding that issue. iii. Points of order regarding whether a proposed motion falls within the purview of the TB shall be ruled upon by the President based on these guidelines and the FT TOS with the advice of the FT host. ii. Any member of the TB can second a motion. i. Once a motion has been made and seconded the President shall post a sticky poll thread in the TB forum calling the question and announcing the vote. The thread shall be titled "Vote: [summary of motion]". In the first post on the sticky poll thread the President shall post the maker and seconder of the motion as well as the voting deadline and then restate the motion that has been made and seconded. D. Public Notice Proceduresii. TB members may register their vote of yes, no or abstain while the voting period is open. iii. It is each TB members’ responsibility to check the TB forum often enough that they do not inadvertently miss a vote. iv. Once a TB member casts a vote that vote is final. v. Regular motions shall be kept open for a period of two weeks from the posting of the sticky poll unless a. at the call of the chair extenuating circumstances call for a shorter voting period although in no circumstance shall a vote be open for less than five days iv. A motion shall pass if two-thirds of TB members participating in that vote vote ‘yes.’ b. all TB members have registered their vote. v. At the close of a voting period the President shall formally announce the results in the sticky thread and instruct the Vice President/Secretary to comply with the TB’s public notice procedures. vi. When motions containing recommendations for changes to FT are passed the President shall communicate that recommendation to the FT host. i. Once a motion has been put before TalkBoard for a vote the Vice President/Secretary shall post a new thread in the public TalkBoard Topics Forum announcing the vote along with the voting end date as quickly as feasible. SECTION 5: AMENDMENTS ii. Motions on topics related to the internal administration of TalkBoard as determined by the President and some topics requested for discussion or input by the FT host will be exempted from this public posting requirement. iii. The purpose of posting voting topics in the public TalkBoard forum is to solicit member feedback on any motions that are up for a vote and to allow for comments after a vote is made. It is at the sole discretion of the individual TalkBoard members whether they choose to post in the public discussion thread, there being no requirement to do so. iv. Once voting is completed and the TB President has formally announced the results of the vote in the TB forum the Vice President/Secretary shall announce the full results of the roll call vote in a. the public TalkBoard Topics thread announcing the vote as well as b. a new thread in the Town Hall forum. 1. Process to Amend: Proposed amendments to these guidelines must be submitted in writing to the TB in their private forum. This poll will close 8 Oct 2008 at 8:15am (EDT)2. Approval: Amendments to these guidelines can be made by a two-thirds majority vote of the TB members following the regular guidelines regarding TB motions and public notice procedures. |
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 10417174)
H. Replacement
i. In the event of a resignation or removal from TB his replacement shall be the candidate who received the highest vote in the most recent election without having been elected. ii. A second vacancy from TalkBoard would be filled by the next candidate in line, and this process will continue until there are no more candidates available. If it reaches that point, the Administrator will appoint a member. iii. Once the date for a new election has been announced, no vacancy on TalkBoard will be filled until after that election. At that point, the results of the new election will determine who will fill vacancies. |
Originally Posted by hhoope01
(Post 10417276)
Who is the Administrator?
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There are at least a couple of terminology inconsistencies in this draft.
I wish it had not been rushed to a motion in this manner, espcially since I am very busy in LAS at a meeting and therefore did not have an opportunity to proof this particular draft before it was motioned and seconded. FWIW, I repeatedly asked that this motion not be made and seconded yet in the private TB forum but my request was, obviously, ignored. I'm pretty firmly on the record as opposing these guidelines (despite the fact that I lead the effort to draft them) because they contain two provision that I consider poison pills: -Making a relatively clean moderation history a prerequisite for TB candidacy -Automatic removal of a TB member who gets a 30-days suspension I'm not even going to address the question of caprecious or politically motivated suspensions because to do so would get me suspended. But these provisions do encourage at least the perception of the possibility of same. I will address the fact that certain people never get pulled into the moderation adjuducation process in the first place because moderators tend to cut each other more slack. I don't fault them for that, it's only human nature for cops to cut other cops more slack. That's why I have a 'Fraternal Order of Police Benevolent Fund' sticker on my car! But these provisions in the guidelines are justifiably criticized as stacking the TB deck toward moderators (since they are less often moderated by other moderators, and when they are they are more likely to be warned than suspended) and against those who question authority. Otoh, I'm sure it will make for some great candidate fodder this fall for those who wish to run for TB and want to point to moderators dealing themselves some extra authority cards through the TB process. Bottom line: these guidelines as presented do not treat all Flyertalkers as Flyertalkers first. It inserts moderation into the TB process and that is, imho, a big mistake. For this and other reasons, it does not have my support. I may make an alternate motion that does not include the poison pill provisions in the near future and I would hope that such a motion could gain a second and 2/3 majority support but, as I say, I am presently very busy at a meeting in LAS... |
Originally Posted by kokonutz
(Post 10418896)
-Automatic removal of a TB member who gets a 30-days suspension
Or are you saying that the TB host is simply a puppet or a simpleton that cannot be trusted to exercise judgment on whether the member should be removed or not and will approve removal in all cases? :confused::confused: |
Originally Posted by kokonutz
(Post 10418896)
I will address the fact that certain people never get pulled into the moderation adjuducation process in the first place because moderators tend to cut each other more slack.
But these provisions in the guidelines are justifiably criticized as stacking the TB deck toward moderators (since they are less often moderated by other moderators, and when they are they are more likely to be warned than suspended) and against those who question authority. And let's toss the "question authority" thing out, eh? ElmhurstNick said it best in another thread--but essentially, offering up "questioning authority" in reference to those who may have been suspended is, frankly, insulting to people who have actually questioned authority. Otoh, I'm sure it will make for some great candidate fodder this fall for those who wish to run for TB and want to point to moderators dealing themselves some extra authority cards through the TB process. Bottom line: these guidelines as presented do not treat all Flyertalkers as Flyertalkers first. It inserts moderation into the TB process and that is, imho, a big mistake. "Flyertalker's first" is a nice sound bite, but completely and utterly nonsensical in this context. It's like "Thanks, but no thanks." |
Originally Posted by ClueByFour
(Post 10419639)
False. Don't confuse fact with innuendo by a small minority. It's insulting to fact.
False. Moderators can (and are) suspended. Suggesting otherwise is simply a falsehood. And let's toss the "question authority" thing out, eh? ElmhurstNick said it best in another thread--but essentially, offering up "questioning authority" in reference to those who may have been suspended is, frankly, insulting to people who have actually questioned authority. True. If the Talkboard does not hold itself to some level of decorum, I will run in each and every Talkboard election until that happens for the specific purpose of pointing it out, including calling any sitting members who are up for re-election out on it should they cast a vote against decorum and accountability. False. It holds the Talkboard to the same set of rules as the mods. If nothing else, it evens the playing field. "Flyertalker's first" is a nice sound bite, but completely and utterly nonsensical in this context. It's like "Thanks, but no thanks." Ulitimately the decision whether to suspend or not suspend is, as Randy has himself said, a total judgement call. I doubt that a moderator has ever followed you around from forum to forum just waiting for you to put a toe across the line so I appreciate that you can't understand what I'm talking about. To use some hyperbole, you as a moderator telling me that judgement-call moderation and especially NON moderation does not exist is like a white man who drives a mercedes trying to explain to a black man who drives a mercedes that racial profiling does not exist. Hey, you never get racially profiled so any suggestion of it at all must be false. :rolleyes: Randy created a BRIGHT LINE between moderation and the TB when he created each institution. He wisely knew that giving the TB purview over moderation would create problems. He equally wisely knew that giving moderators the ability to unseat duly elected TB members or prevent certain flyertalkers from running for TB would create problems. I don't think TSA employees should ever get to threaten me to bend to their will with 'do you want to fly today' and I don't think moderators should ever get to threaten me to muffle my opinions or face the inability to serve on the elected TB. It's a freedom thing. NickB: for better and sometimes for worse Randy grants his customers great latitude in creating standards and making decisions, both in terms of moderation and in terms of the TB. He has rarely vetoed a suggestion from the TB. If the TB either 'automoatically' or by vote decides to recommend a TB member for dismissal, I have no reason to believe his attitude about such things would change. Although if these guidelines do pass as drafted (and are not later over-ruled by a set that do not contain the poison pills or, pray God, vetoed by Randy) then I hope he WILL change his attitude about accepting TB recommendations...especially ones that result from ill-conceived automatic recommendations. [please excuse spelling and typos....posting from a hotel conference room via bb] |
Originally Posted by kokonutz
(Post 10419777)
To use some hyperbole, you as a moderator telling me that judgement-call moderation and especially NON moderation does not exist is like a white man who drives a mercedes trying to explain to a black man who drives a mercedes that racial profiling does not exist. Hey, you never get racially profiled so any suggestion of it at all must be false. :rolleyes:
Further, all of this hyperbole assumes that these suspensions that we all dance around were not actually earned. Or that future ones won't be. Randy created a BRIGHT LINE between moderation and the TB when he created each institution. He wisely knew that giving the TB purview over moderation would create problems. He equally wisely knew that giving moderators the ability to unseat duly elected TB members or prevent certain flyertalkers from running for TB would create problems. I don't think TSA employees should ever get to threaten me to bend to their will with 'do you want to fly today' and I don't think moderators should ever get to threaten me to muffle my opinions or face the inability to serve on the elected TB. You won't convince me (or, for that matter the >%99 of FT members who have never received a 30 day suspension) that playing within the rules before acting as a representative of FT is a bad thing. It's a freedom thing. I hesitate to say IJAFIBB when I hear "it's a freedom thing" and keep a straight face. Although if these guidelines do pass as drafted (and are not later over-ruled by a set that do not contain the poison pills or, pray God, vetoed by Randy) then I hope he WILL change his attitude about accepting TB recommendations...especially ones that result from ill-conceived automatic recommendations. |
Clueby, I love ya, babe, but simply saying 'nah-ah' does not an argument make.
Take off the cop shades, set aside the 'RESPECT MY ATHORI-TIE' stuff and think about the bigger picture. @:-) Letting the posters elect whomever they want has worked very well for years. There is no reason to arbitrarily limit the candidate pool this way now any more than there is a reason to arbitrarily not allow moderators to run for TB. We're all (supposed to be) Flyertalkers first! |
Originally Posted by kokonutz
(Post 10419950)
Letting the posters elect whomever they want has worked very well for years.
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Originally Posted by kokonutz
(Post 10419950)
Clueby, I love ya, babe, but simply saying 'nah-ah' does not an argument make.
Letting the posters elect whomever they want has worked very well for years. There is no reason to arbitrarily limit the candidate pool this way now any more than there is a reason to arbitrarily not allow moderators to run for TB. We're all (supposed to be) Flyertalkers first! We are all FT members first. We are not all Talkboard members or mods. I believe those groups should be held to a higher standard (noting the the latter already is, and the former is not), while you apparently believe it's okay to flip Randy the bird (because all this is ultimately his call) and then become a representative of FT. I don't believe that's the case. |
I just wanted to say that I am very impressed by how eloquently and in an intellectually superior fashion kokonutz beats the pulp out of those who try to hold a candle to him.
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Originally Posted by ClueByFour
(Post 10420042)
while you apparently believe it's okay to flip Randy the bird (because all this is ultimately his call) and then become a representative of FT. I don't believe that's the case.
I think FTers deserve better. |
Originally Posted by ClueByFour
(Post 10420042)
Actually, it has not worked well. There have been something like two-dozen (and counting) votes missed by sitting Talkboard members. If you really want to dig up the freedom and democracy stuff, the current system has allowed a distinct pattern of disenfranchised FT members. This motion will reduce that, which is a good thing.
Again, that's great. So what? We are all FT members first. We are not all Talkboard members or mods. I believe those groups should be held to a higher standard (noting the the latter already is, and the former is not), while you apparently believe it's okay to flip Randy the bird (because all this is ultimately his call) and then become a representative of FT. I don't believe that's the case. When moderators have to be approved by popular vote then we can compare 'high standards.' But really, this ISN'T about mods vs TB members vs others. Its about NOT making it mods vs TB members vs others. As I keep saying, we should ALL be treated the SAME when it comes to TB candidacy: announce your intentions and make your best case. If enough posters agree with your posts and you win, serve best you can. Attempts to artificially limit the candidate pool look and feel like cronyism and insider-dealing. |
How many mods are on TB? Just out of curiosity. And percentage-wise, what percentage of all FT members do mods constitute? I really don't know.
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