This is a meme I wish we could do away with. No one is suggesting that Randy is not the boss here. Of course it is his prerogative, just as it is prerogative to listen to this TB motion if it passes or to tell us to go pound sand. He runs the place with IBB's blessing and can do what he wants. We get that.

But even heads of state have advisers.

I'm familiar with that thread. I disagree with the premise but at least find it more consistent than the current implementation. So for that I applaud you.

Because nonsense posts in other forums are not accepted - in OMNI they are. In other forums, anyone trying to get the entire page filled with posts they have posted to last would be an issue - in OMNI it's just someone having fun - or someone post padding. How do you tell the difference between someone having fun and someone post padding. If you post to the thank <insert deity or person here> it's Friday threads, are you doing it for the challenge of getting them in order, or to pad?

Well in isolation I don't think you can make that call. You would have to look at their other recent posts, posting frequency, etc. One cannot say for certain based on any one post whether it is a pad or not, and this is true for OMNI and other forums alike. Context and history are important.

and that was/still is a great proposal!

Where the leadership in that?

With each motion taking 2 weeks, then waiting weeks more, nothing will get done anytime soon as more threads such as this one will get everyone in a tizzy and push folks into various sides. That's not healthy. Sure it might be a little out of the box and against (gasp) "tradition", but if you (TB, not singling jenbel out) considered parallel motions not only could the discussion be more focused, but it would allow better comparisons/contrasts of the various scenarios suggested in this thread. @:-) I'd think the TB members would appreciate the clarity of all of us coming to a thread like this saying "I support motion A, B, or C."

As it see it, this open ended debate (acknowledging that Randy has made a final decision) does nothing more than stir anger and resentment and does little to make the TalkBoard look effective in giving clear Randy advice.

While I don't think Kokonutz' motion goes far enough (I understand his desire to get back to where things were, before starting a new debate) kudos to him for making a motion and taking quick action.

I find a lot of nonsense posts are accepted in other forums. I posted a link a couple of pages back about a post in Travel Safety that was essentially an OMNI post but yet is treated as completely legit and valid because of the forum it resides in. I asked for someone to explain to me how that thread was any different from the majority of what happens in OMNI.

I haven no issues with removing post counts in OMNI as long as the other forums are cleaned up accordingly too. OMNI has gotten out of hand WRT how posting is allowed. There are a few people who abuse the OMNI system to pad their counts but the majority of people are good honest brokers in OMNI. Yet something like the decision that was made by Randy (and the subsequent motion being discussed here) show me that in the grand scheme of things that OMNI is less important to FT than other (IMHO) equally spammed forums.

OMNI and post counts is not the problem. People abusing the unmoderated OMNI forums to pad their post counts is the problem. Fix the problem...

That's a recipe for a moderation disaster, with bad feelings all around.

So you're saying then that being punished for post padding is never really possible? I'm missing your point here.

Dead horse successfully beaten.

Not surprising that the anti-OMNI post count people want this debate to stop.

Moderators and members both suffer when the rules are unnecessarily subjective. People always have different perspectives, and objective rules are a major help to reduce animosity. I ran for TB on that platform.

OK then it sounds like your gripe would be against the TOS, which specifically bans post-padding, but does not define post-padding IIRC.

I dont know how one can make a moderation decision in isolation unless the rules are set to be extremely subjective.

I again reference that Travel Safety and Security thread question a couple of pages back and wonder how the majority of the responses to the thread I linked are not post padding?
http://flyertalk.com/forum/showpost....&postcount=291

What I find surprising is that you're putting as much energy into this as you are. You do realize that it's about post counts on an internet forum, right? Aren't there more important battles you could be fighting out there?

Opinions were voiced, a decision was made (or reiterated as it were), that's the end as far as I'm concerned.

Honestly, this is just getting silly now. It's no longer productive.

The TB rules require an extended voting period for TB motions to allow for maximum poster input.

We are meant to be a deliberative body, after all. ^

Deliberation is great. It's healthy and it promotes well-founded decisions. But it serves zero purpose once it stops being productive. This one has ceased to be productive. YMMV