This thread is becoming an OMNI of it's own.


I'm against counting OMNI posts towards a member's overall post count.

Just out of curiosity, for those of you who do not think OMNI posts should count, why not?

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Why, Skye?

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Looks like punki and I had our posts cross in the night. Oops.

my main concern about OMNI for some time now are the now countless 'counting' counters ... (up, down, etc. etc. etc) without contributing anything for the community (except perhaps some knowledge about posters that can't resist to post there again and again ...). For me such threads now dominate to much of OMNI front pages and hide the (for me) interesting topics.

I still believe that the introduction (as mentioned as a possibility by Randy earlier in another thread) might solve that problem for me:

One of the plug-ins allows members to "Ignore Thread." This means that if any of the game threads just aren't your thing, you can select them and they will not appear to you when you visit OMNI.

I am all for this!

I don't care if OMNI posts count or not, whatever TB and/or Randy think/decide regarding the counting question is ok with me. I mind if the counting/'game' threads dominate OMNI frontpages for me - if I could eleminate their Vista - that would be fine.

This is in no way an attack on anybody but can someone please explain to me how the majority of the posts in the linked thread below are not OMNI-esque? The only reason this thread is considered to be a count worthy post (and therefor adds validity of the poster to the community from some of the posts previously made) is because its not in OMNI?

http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=793065

I just want to understand how threads like this which are found all over FT are different from the majority of OMNI posts? I think (just like last time this arguement was discussed) that the majority of people thing the OMNI games are post padding but again (as argued before) this is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater if you remove all post counts from OMNI.

The simplest solution is to delete and ban all game threads from OMNI which would clean up the post count issue (IMHO).

OMNI Game posts should not count, but the motion you and kokonutz have put out there does not address that. You should have asked for comments before rushing to come up with a motion within hours of Randy's decision. It's pure post padding when one counts numbers. Have you looked at the number of posts in those threads? In case you haven't seen the number counting threads:

Newest Omni Waste Of Time - Count Down From 100,000

Top 10 posters:
User Name Posts
drbond 10,039
hhoope01 8,984
BiziBB 8,214
yashan 7,443
im-headed-west 6,036
oldpenny16 5,388
szg 4,646
the_traveler 4,179
Cornroaster 3,160
Amanda 3,058

Newest OMNI waste of time - count UP to 100,000
User Name Posts
Gaucho100K 18,358
szg 8,481
the_traveler 4,761
drbond 4,365
The _Banking_Scot 1,492
dcmike 1,441
UNITED959 1,224
jabrams72 1,110
jason8612 1,100
oldpenny16 1,042

Vote down this motion and come back with one that addresses OMNI Games.

Theoretically, all game threads includes the AM thread you have been an active participant in - still want to ban all game threads? ;)

I think if you want post count back because it's important to you, you've got to accept that the games are important to other members who enjoy playing them - not everyone is in it for the post count. You want them to sacrifice what is important to them so that you can get post count back. I'm not convinced that's entirely fair, particularly since there are ways the games can be managed to reduce their impact on OMNI and FT.

A plug-in that allows members to "Ignore Thread." This means that if any of the game threads just aren't your thing, you can select them and they will not appear to you when you visit OMNI.

Wouldn't that solve the problem some of us have, without having to 'deal' with the 'counting or not' question of these posts?

Yes, that will take them off the front page of OMNI, but if you're going to count them it will be an avenue for current posters, and new posters in games yet to be started, to pump up their post count.

I posted this back in post #9 on this thread and still feel the same way:

Point taken on the AM thread but IMHO the AM game thread brings the FT community together and spreads it out to spheres of influence outside of FT. I didnt consider this a game thread since it was more constructive (IHMO) than the counting threads were.

I dont care about my post count as I have less than 1000 :D half of which are most likely in OMNI. I dont see value in posting in the main forums if I am just posting my personal opinion on travel or am repeating what someone else has already said so my post count is probably split about 50/50 between OMNI and the rest of FT.

How is removing OMNI posts from counting anymore fair than what I suggested with the banning of game threads?

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Edit: Anyone else find irony in this being my post #666

tom911 I understand your position and the value argument.

Myself I don't care about individual post counts, I only care about the quality (and easyness to get the informations I am looking for or I might unfortunately miss if 'cluttered') of the front pages of my favorite fora: miles/points, travel/dining, community and OMNI.

I think Rudi is very elequent in his comments today.

While I have also participated in the OMNI games threads on occasion, I do not do it to intentionally increase post count... I do it because it is a "time waster" when I actually want a distraction.

I have found some of the most valuable information from OMNI posters.... and a great place to get answers to off-the-wall questions.

However, I do feel that the OMNI games threads have gotten out of hand.... but I am not a fan of sub-forums in any format, so do not support that solution. As Rudi says, if the Ignore plug-in is implemented that resolves part of the issue.

Bottom line for me, with the exception that the counter does not go up right now for an OMNI post, NOTHING has changed... everyone can still post there and be part of that community. For people who have stopped posting in those games threads, obviously they were only doing it for the post counts since they stopped... so that is an indication of the motivation of their posting. Not sure how increasing post counts benefits the community.

While I have no problem ignoring threads I do not like, I do have to say that - for the most part - OMNI has been much "easier" to navigate the past few days.

Finally, I have to agree with Tom that it appears that the motion does nothing to really resolve the underlying issue... and one TB member says it was just a motion to get Randy to talk to the Talkboard.... not sure a motion was required for that to happen.

The motion really put nothing forward as a long-term solution.... just a knee-jerk reaction to a decision Randy took. Just as Randy's decision may have been a knee-jerk reaction to recent actions and complaints.

William

FWIW, the TB was in the middle of a conversation about long-term solutions to the question of OMNI games when Randy implemented this policy.

The point of this motion is to encourage Randy to restore status quo ante and then continue seeking long-term solutions from there.

No. It's still increasing post count (or was).