If you care to read back to post 91 that is a totally seperate issue and I'd suggest (again) is off topic - for this thread.

What threads were started for and what they turn out to be is not necessarily the same thing -- and somewhere in there various motivations are to be found. Sad to see that those OMNI games, some of which had some substance, are now married with "games", where substance may be harder to find.

Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was not petitioning to get rid of the Evanglist title like post 91, but was rather asking a technical issue in regards to removal of OMNI posts.

I know one of those threads was started by someone with a stated mission of getting to XXXXXX number of posts.

If that ain't a TOS violation, I don't know what is. Or, I could be very mistaken and post padding is not specifically mentioned in the TOS.

Mary; again, it is a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

Instead of openly and honestly dealing with a problem, these things have veils of dishonesty shrouding the real issue from truth. Why, I can't tell you.

Noting that something is a TOS violation may be a TOS violation itself -- or so I've been told. That said, I can't access the rules and guidelines still, so don't know what it says about post-padding.

I'm still trying to figure out what the real problem is. When I've noticed that posters seem to come out of the blue and then rapidly inflate post counts that I can't seem to marry with substantive contributions, I equate that to be akin to a situation where the passenger sitting next to me is telling me a tall tale when I'd rather not be entertained/interrupted .... and then I discover the wonders of iTunes to tune them out.

That is a brilliant idea. I don't play the games but hey if you want to, go for it.

Hey ozstamps, I asked a question in post #40 to the TB which I don't think you've responded to.

Actually. I quite disagree. I asked what the "problem" was that this motion was solving. After beating around the bush, with circular evasive arguments, no one really was able to pin point the "problem" until it came up that the title was the issue and people being upset that new posters were getting the title by posting a number. So what is done??? A motion was created to eliminate counting posts in OMNI?:confused:

That makes zero sense.

It is quite ON TOPIC, b/c it proposes an alternative. If I simply said, this motion is dumb, the TB should vote NO. My argument would hold little credibility. But when I note that this motion is dumb, and can provide a laundry list of reasons, it is more valid.

Why don't the individual post padders be dealt with?
Why don't the titles be removed?
Why don't you hide the post counts?

I'm asking why those solutions aren't being considered to solve "the problem."

This "solution" is narrow minded and as our friend from MSP keeps pointing out it shows that OMNI is the Red Headed Step Child of FT and its posts are less valuable than other posts. If this measure was truly thought out it would include any NON-Points and Miles forum (Community, ORP, TB, Technology, etc.). THAT would have been a better and agreeable solution.

Seriously, this solution is putting a band-aid on a symptom, not fixing the problem.

Not at all. I love the suggestion of an OMNI category for games where posts don't count. Either that or eliminate the games.

We are trying to kill a mouse here with a Howitzer.

I believe it's MSN not MSP. :D That noted in passing and to play off MapleLeaf, I too think this is akin to aiming at a rabid bat with a cruise missile.

The current prolific poster of record has posted a lengthy reply here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...0&postcount=17

I think it is worth reading WRT the community aspect of Omni.

THAT to me is the best solution I've heard yet.

I don't want to remove the games. Why? Because people clearly enjoy them enough to waste a whole day posting in them.

It is not up to me, or anyone on the Talkboard to take away that fun, or judge whether or not its allowed to be fun.

This whole thing IMHO was triggered by just a few posters, and we are working towards penalizing 100000 members just for that.

FWIW: I voted no on this proposal.

Well, if what you say is true, I will edit or delete my post. I can't imagine saying something is a TOS violation is a TOS violation, but heck, I don't make the rules, I just try to follow them :)

^^

I am only re-communicating what I've been told; and that, whether true or not, surprised me too. :o :)

While I feel the term "evangelist" has been greatly devalued of late, I do love your new title "A FlyerTalk Posting Legend" and think it quite appropriate that you attained that in this particular thread. May I be the first to congratulate you. (seriously).


That said, I urge the talkboard to do some sort of change; at a minimum MapleLeaf's suggestion, the one ScottC liked, to move Omni Games to a subforum which doesn't count, but I still prefer my suggestion in post 100 of this thread.

I'm on other forums where I have between 4 and 300 posts, where I don't know the personalities, and I know that I do subconsciously give a lot of credit to the people with high post counts. It does skew the perceptions. I like seeing post counts, but I think that in this case they've gotten very misleading. (except in the case of GUWonder, who really is a Legend)