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missydarlin Aug 23, 2006 1:05 pm

I personally think that at the point that it was actually decided that money was going to be accepted for the flag, it should go to Randy for approval, but Spiff is right in that you are asking Moderation questions.

Spiff Aug 23, 2006 1:08 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster
Spiff, it is not that simple. Moderators are charged with enforcing the TOS. In this case, TalkBoard made a change to the TOS and it is important that both moderators and members understand fully what that change means.

That will not only avoid unintentional TOS violations but will also ensure that this decision is applied evenly throughout FT.

The TalkBoard does not make policy for the moderators nor does the TalkBoard oversee the moderators.

Let's not cause this thread to be closed, please.

Dovster Aug 23, 2006 1:44 pm

Spiff, I am not discussing moderation policy. I am questioning what TalkBoard specifically had in mind when it passed this motion.

TalkBoard was presented with a question. TalkBoard presumably debated it. TalkBoard came to a unanimous decision.

In general, I agree with that decision. It was not, however, very clear and I want to know the specifics of what TalkBoard intended. This is now part of the TOS and I want to be certain that I do not unintentionally violate the TOS.

ClueByFour Aug 23, 2006 2:21 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster
In general, I agree with that decision. It was not, however, very clear and I want to know the specifics of what TalkBoard intended. This is now part of the TOS and I want to be certain that I do not unintentionally violate the TOS.

Don't make charitable solicitations without running it by Randy first. Where, exactly, is the confusion?

What you want is intent. It does not matter what the Talkboard's intent was. What matters it the motion that passed.

Spiff Aug 23, 2006 3:12 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster
Spiff, I am not discussing moderation policy. I am questioning what TalkBoard specifically had in mind when it passed this motion.

TalkBoard was presented with a question. TalkBoard presumably debated it. TalkBoard came to a unanimous decision.

In general, I agree with that decision. It was not, however, very clear and I want to know the specifics of what TalkBoard intended. This is now part of the TOS and I want to be certain that I do not unintentionally violate the TOS.

The policy is exactly as the motion reads: "All Charitable Solicitations Must be Approved by Randy".

If you have any questions about this policy, then please direct them to Randy, not the TalkBoard.

Thank you.

AJLondon Aug 23, 2006 4:31 pm

I was wondering about the implementation of this announcement. Was it on 21 Aug when the TB took the decision or was it when the announcement was made on this forum or was it when the mods were informed or perhaps some other time altogether?

To take an example, does this new policy mean that threads like this current one would now be a TOS violation?

And is the implementation/enforcement of this new TOS change already active?

Spiff Aug 23, 2006 4:45 pm


Originally Posted by AJLondon
I was wondering about the implementation of this announcement. Was it on 21 Aug when the TB took the decision or was it when the announcement was made on this forum or was it when the mods were informed or perhaps some other time altogether?

To take an example, does this new policy mean that threads like this current one would now be a TOS violation?

And is the implementation/enforcement of this new TOS change already active?

Again, please refer any enforcement questions of this policy to Randy and/or the moderator(s) of the thread(s) in question.

ozstamps Aug 23, 2006 7:47 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster

Do the other TalkBoard members agree with Cholula assessment that the steps taken in connection with flag-selling would not have been a TOS violation under this new motion?

One other question. Before the flag issue arose, several people had questioned where they could send donations to help Israel or Lebanon. Others replied, citing specific charities (but not requesting donations).

Would this still be allowed?

Re #1 - that is how I saw it persoally. Wonderfully generous responses from all concerned too, I might add. ^

Re par #2 and #3 - presumably if the poster was at arm's length, and simply offering a suggestion, that cannot be other than being helpful to those who ask.

If there was a catastrophe somewhere that I felt like supporting personally, and several posters offered links to well established bona fide charities that were raising funds for it, I'd appreciate being advised who they were, and getting the direct link on how to assist financially.


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