a Spirit Airlines forum, it's time
Jun 23, 2013, 6:27 pm
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I wasn't suggesting that there would be enough traffic. I was suggesting that those who want the forum do the work in regards to compiling statistics and such. 
Jun 23, 2013, 8:19 pm
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) that convinces me a dedicated Spirit forum is necessary.At this point, in the absence of solid data (or even just the filled-out questionnaire that's been suggested to you several times) from you showing that a Spirit forum is warranted, the farthest I'm willing to go is a shared forum for LCCs.
Frankly, you have been so adamant about this subject for awhile with practically zero support from anyone else that I have to wonder what your motivations are for pushing for this are. I will support this forum when I become convinced (with solid data) that it is beneficial and/or when I see an overwhelming tide of support and demand for the forum. To date, neither one of those has even come close to happening.
If you want my vote, you have some work to do.
Jun 23, 2013, 9:47 pm
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Jun 24, 2013, 2:40 am
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I may have posted in the other thread that there may be some changes due to FlyerTalk's organizational model, but as far as a dedicated Spirit forum goes, I have seen nothing from you or from anyone else (well, subtract you and it's pretty much crickets around here ) that convinces me a dedicated Spirit forum is necessary.
At this point, in the absence of solid data (or even just the filled-out questionnaire that's been suggested to you several times) from you showing that a Spirit forum is warranted, the farthest I'm willing to go is a shared forum for LCCs.
Frankly, you have been so adamant about this subject for awhile with practically zero support from anyone else that I have to wonder what your motivations are for pushing for this are. I will support this forum when I become convinced (with solid data) that it is beneficial and/or when I see an overwhelming tide of support and demand for the forum. To date, neither one of those has even come close to happening.
I am more than fine, with a combined forum for Spirit/Ryan/EasyJet etc.
I started this odd journey after wondering where the Spirit thread was and reading the long sorted history of this topic, for 2006. It did have its own forum (as I understand it) for a couple of days.
The whole thing around this airline and the others is quite odd, with high passions of those whom don't like them.
At the very least, I was able to get the first vote on Spirit, since 2006!
If you want my vote, you have some work to do.
) that convinces me a dedicated Spirit forum is necessary.At this point, in the absence of solid data (or even just the filled-out questionnaire that's been suggested to you several times) from you showing that a Spirit forum is warranted, the farthest I'm willing to go is a shared forum for LCCs.
Frankly, you have been so adamant about this subject for awhile with practically zero support from anyone else that I have to wonder what your motivations are for pushing for this are. I will support this forum when I become convinced (with solid data) that it is beneficial and/or when I see an overwhelming tide of support and demand for the forum. To date, neither one of those has even come close to happening.
I am more than fine, with a combined forum for Spirit/Ryan/EasyJet etc.
I started this odd journey after wondering where the Spirit thread was and reading the long sorted history of this topic, for 2006. It did have its own forum (as I understand it) for a couple of days.
The whole thing around this airline and the others is quite odd, with high passions of those whom don't like them.
At the very least, I was able to get the first vote on Spirit, since 2006!
If you want my vote, you have some work to do.
This is fine with me, as it seems more than reasonable!
Feb 26, 2015, 2:56 pm
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Does, The 2015 Value Airline of the Year, Deserve Its Own Forum?
Spirit has been named Air Transport World, 2015 Value Airline of the Year: based on this recent honor, and the fact that Spirit is the top discussion topic of the budget airline forum North America; I propose the Spirit be given its own forum.
This would be an important milestone for flyertalk, as Spirit would become the first Ultra-Low-Cost Carrier, to get this recognition. @:-)
http://ir.spirit.com/releasedetail.c...c-2MmNUc-9m0xJ
http://www.globenewswire.com/NewsRoom/Attachment/31016
Congrats to Spirit CEO Ben Baldanza!
This would be an important milestone for flyertalk, as Spirit would become the first Ultra-Low-Cost Carrier, to get this recognition. @:-)
http://ir.spirit.com/releasedetail.c...c-2MmNUc-9m0xJ
http://www.globenewswire.com/NewsRoom/Attachment/31016
Congrats to Spirit CEO Ben Baldanza!
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Feb 26, 2015, 4:14 pm
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Feb 27, 2015, 4:45 am
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Looking at the last month in Budget North and South American Airlines I see 14 Spirit Airlines threads. Barring some other development, that data doesn't seem to lend itself to the airline needing its own forum, sorry.
Feb 27, 2015, 8:25 am
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As you can see there has been previous discussion on this topic; you can read the previous, lengthy thread via the link in the second post.
To further your cause, you should read the criteria TalkBoard considers important in evaluating establishing a new forum; if you find and share substantiating information and data, those will aid in bringing your suggestion to fruition.
To further your cause, you should read the criteria TalkBoard considers important in evaluating establishing a new forum; if you find and share substantiating information and data, those will aid in bringing your suggestion to fruition.
The following are qualitative criteria that the TalkBoard believes are useful to consider when evaluating proposals to create, close, split, or move forums. Whenever a forum change is discussed on the TalkBoard Topics, the TalkBoard encourages posters to fully address these criteria in addition to any other reasons supporting or opposing the change.
1. Will the forum be (or is it now) beneficial to FlyerTalk?
2. Will the new forum benefit a relationship with FlyerTalk? E.g., does the forum provide value for FT members, such as a friendly ear highly placed in the company
3. Is FT the best place to discuss this subject?
4. Is there a passionate following? This is essential in order to provide dedicated expert helpers to get questions answered.
5. Is a critical mass of posts and readers anticipated or existing? We need adequate traffic to keep everyone visiting frequently. One living forum is more valuable than two mostly dead ones.
6. Is this the best place on FlyerTalk for this subject? This is the classification issue. The answer depends primarily on achieving and maintaining critical mass. It also depends on whether or where the discussion might (or does) occur in the absence of the forum.
7. For proposals to split a forum, is the split expected to improve the signal to noise ratio? Why?
Passed June 28, 2010:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/town-...m-changes.html
1. Will the forum be (or is it now) beneficial to FlyerTalk?
2. Will the new forum benefit a relationship with FlyerTalk? E.g., does the forum provide value for FT members, such as a friendly ear highly placed in the company
3. Is FT the best place to discuss this subject?
4. Is there a passionate following? This is essential in order to provide dedicated expert helpers to get questions answered.
5. Is a critical mass of posts and readers anticipated or existing? We need adequate traffic to keep everyone visiting frequently. One living forum is more valuable than two mostly dead ones.
6. Is this the best place on FlyerTalk for this subject? This is the classification issue. The answer depends primarily on achieving and maintaining critical mass. It also depends on whether or where the discussion might (or does) occur in the absence of the forum.
7. For proposals to split a forum, is the split expected to improve the signal to noise ratio? Why?
Passed June 28, 2010:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/town-...m-changes.html
Feb 27, 2015, 11:01 am
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To answer the OPs question, no, it does not until it's proven there is a need.
Can this thread be merged with the other one?
Can this thread be merged with the other one?
Feb 27, 2015, 12:57 pm
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In the interests of full disclosure, OP, it appears you work for Spirit, correct? It's not tequired, but it probably affects the discussion.
And BTW, congratulations.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/budge...l#post24421027
And BTW, congratulations.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/budge...l#post24421027
We Won!
Spirit Is The Value Airline Of The Year, 2015
Spirit has been named Air Transport World's Value Airline of the Year! This is a huge honor for us. But an even bigger honor is having so many awesomely smart passengers (like yourself) fly with us. Thanks to you, we can give more people more go, every day!
Spirit Is The Value Airline Of The Year, 2015
Spirit has been named Air Transport World's Value Airline of the Year! This is a huge honor for us. But an even bigger honor is having so many awesomely smart passengers (like yourself) fly with us. Thanks to you, we can give more people more go, every day!
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Feb 27, 2015, 3:30 pm
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In the interests of full disclosure, OP, it appears you work for Spirit, correct? It's not tequired, but it probably affects the discussion.
And BTW, congratulations.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/budge...l#post24421027
And BTW, congratulations.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/budge...l#post24421027
No relation to Spirit.
Feb 27, 2015, 3:51 pm
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Spirit has many fans, including some friends of mine. However they don't read FlyerTalk. People here collect miles and points or at least they fly a lot. Those categories have very little overlap with Spirit's customers. That's why you don't see a lot of Spirit threads here.
Feb 28, 2015, 12:57 pm
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I'm having a flashback...or second verse, same as the first.
Mar 2, 2015, 11:32 am
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Spirit has many fans, including some friends of mine. However they don't read FlyerTalk. People here collect miles and points or at least they fly a lot. Those categories have very little overlap with Spirit's customers. That's why you don't see a lot of Spirit threads here.
Anyway, Spirit is a close second (behind JetBlue) for busiest airline at FLL. It's really becoming a major player in the airline industry, and giving it a forum on FlyerTalk would not be inappropriate in any way.
Bruce
Mar 2, 2015, 12:44 pm
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That's probably true, but there are exceptions. I live near Ft. Lauderdale, Spirit's home base, so I can use them to fly, usually nonstop and extremely cheaply, to dozens of locations in North, South and Central America. And I do, maybe half a dozen times a year. I'm a member of their Free Spirit frequent-flyer program, and I hold their Mastercard. Many of my flights cost me just 5000 miles round-trip, plus some nominal taxes. You have to be really clever to avoid all of Spirit's fees, but to date, I have not given them one extra nickel!
Anyway, Spirit is a close second (behind JetBlue) for busiest airline at FLL. It's really becoming a major player in the airline industry, and giving it a forum on FlyerTalk would not be inappropriate in any way.
Bruce
Anyway, Spirit is a close second (behind JetBlue) for busiest airline at FLL. It's really becoming a major player in the airline industry, and giving it a forum on FlyerTalk would not be inappropriate in any way.
Bruce
-Their rewards program is pretty worthless and thus does not attract a lot of attention
-The rewards program's structure and operation is relatively simple, so there is not much to be said or asked about it
-Enterprise's target market and most of their clientele are first-time or very infrequent car renters who are not likely to be seeking information out on a forum like ours
Spirit isn't even king of the airline marketplace (like Enterprise is with the car rental world), so the fact that they are an increasingly popular airline really has little impact on the level of discussion they will engender on FlyerTalk.
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