Suggestion: Make the TalkBoard forum public (read-only)
Feb 26, 2004, 8:25 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by wharvey:
While I have said nothing in those private conversations that I would have a problem with anyone seeing, the fact remains they were private.</font>
While I have said nothing in those private conversations that I would have a problem with anyone seeing, the fact remains they were private.</font>
At work we call it the "Wall Street Journal test" -- assume that whatever you're saying or doing winds up on the front page of the Wall Street Journal.
Mar 1, 2004, 5:11 pm
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There are several false statements and misconceptions floating around.
1) The Yahoo board is closed. I did not renew it. It seemed inappropriote to discuss FT business where there would be no FT record. Punki set up that board on her own without permission of the talkboard.
2) Kokonutz, talks about government functions. IF we were a government, or had any legislative power I would be the first to argue that the forum should be transpartent. I spent the first few weeks arguing with Punki about the forum SHOULD be open. She was against it. For her to claim it should be open now... well that would just contradict her original position. Perhaps she changed her mind? Regards of that, we are only advisory. Thus, our advice can be private.
I used to favor it being open. However after all the complaints in this forum, it would be a nightmare to do so. There are some who would be real time posting complaints about our discussion.
1) The Yahoo board is closed. I did not renew it. It seemed inappropriote to discuss FT business where there would be no FT record. Punki set up that board on her own without permission of the talkboard.
2) Kokonutz, talks about government functions. IF we were a government, or had any legislative power I would be the first to argue that the forum should be transpartent. I spent the first few weeks arguing with Punki about the forum SHOULD be open. She was against it. For her to claim it should be open now... well that would just contradict her original position. Perhaps she changed her mind? Regards of that, we are only advisory. Thus, our advice can be private.
I used to favor it being open. However after all the complaints in this forum, it would be a nightmare to do so. There are some who would be real time posting complaints about our discussion.
Mar 2, 2004, 6:23 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by cigarman:
Regards of that, we are only advisory. Thus, our advice can be private.
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Regards of that, we are only advisory. Thus, our advice can be private.
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Secondly, you are elected (well, at least some of you). Thus, it could be argued that you should keep us informed.
Then again...who cares
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Mar 2, 2004, 8:11 pm
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Mar 2, 2004, 8:13 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by gleff:
I tend to work under the assumption that anything I write will be read by others.
At work we call it the "Wall Street Journal test" -- assume that whatever you're saying or doing winds up on the front page of the Wall Street Journal.</font>
I tend to work under the assumption that anything I write will be read by others.
At work we call it the "Wall Street Journal test" -- assume that whatever you're saying or doing winds up on the front page of the Wall Street Journal.</font>
That is my M.O. (and it's a good one, since they lurk here...)
Mar 4, 2004, 6:11 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Punki:
I also see absolutely no reason on earth that TalkBoard should not be a read only board. It really should be open to the public--</font>
I also see absolutely no reason on earth that TalkBoard should not be a read only board. It really should be open to the public--</font>
In going through the TB archives I found a post where you had this opinion, which is contradicts what you are saying now.
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Punki:
If we need to argue, discuss heatedly, or even get mad, spit, scream, kick and yell, let's have the taste and class to do it in private and, after we have fought our battles in private, share our unified conclusion in public.</font>
If we need to argue, discuss heatedly, or even get mad, spit, scream, kick and yell, let's have the taste and class to do it in private and, after we have fought our battles in private, share our unified conclusion in public.</font>
Why should the current talkboard not have the ability to fight our battles in private?
Mar 6, 2004, 3:10 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by cigarman:
The Yahoo board is closed. It seemed inappropriote to discuss FT business where there would be no FT record. </font>
The Yahoo board is closed. It seemed inappropriote to discuss FT business where there would be no FT record. </font>
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Mar 6, 2004, 5:34 am
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ozstamps, I would not say that the Moderators set up their own private board to discuss FT matters a few weeks back….
Mar 6, 2004, 9:28 am
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Actually, Missy, I believe that my statement was referring not to the creation a "read only" Talk Board forum (at the time I did not know that such a thing was possible), but instead referred to the practice of Talk Board members making public posts about matters under consideration prior to achieving consensus.
At this point, however, I think that having a "read only" Talk Board forum is about the only thing that could bring efficacy to, or rejuvinate any general interest in, Talk Board. As it stands, I would be very surprised to learn that the vast majority of FlyerTalkers either know, or care, that Talk Board exists.
At this point, however, I think that having a "read only" Talk Board forum is about the only thing that could bring efficacy to, or rejuvinate any general interest in, Talk Board. As it stands, I would be very surprised to learn that the vast majority of FlyerTalkers either know, or care, that Talk Board exists.
Mar 6, 2004, 9:44 am
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one (and as I remember it, may be the major reason) to put up that Yahoo board in the very early days, was the voting feature that it did provide (and that didn't exist on FT board).
Punki (and I) were not aware (for which nobody else but us were to blame at that time), that some other FT-board-members had no previous experience with that Yahoo feature (board and voting) and so had difficulties to get initial access (and some didn't trust those that put op the yahoo board and did question privacy-questions regarding the initiators).
But this is really tempi passati, and I don't see really big need to go back to 'those (early) FT-board days' and go on argueing about any individuals then - as I remember it, it was just difficult for anyone then to agree on anything ....
Punki (and I) were not aware (for which nobody else but us were to blame at that time), that some other FT-board-members had no previous experience with that Yahoo feature (board and voting) and so had difficulties to get initial access (and some didn't trust those that put op the yahoo board and did question privacy-questions regarding the initiators).
But this is really tempi passati, and I don't see really big need to go back to 'those (early) FT-board days' and go on argueing about any individuals then - as I remember it, it was just difficult for anyone then to agree on anything ....
Mar 6, 2004, 9:58 am
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Considering the amount of 2,4, 5 and even 9 page threads on Talkboard issues I'd say there is plenty of interest in it
Mar 14, 2004, 1:27 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Punki:
At this point, however, I think that having a "read only" Talk Board forum is about the only thing that could bring efficacy to, or rejuvinate any general interest in, Talk Board. As it stands, I would be very surprised to learn that the vast majority of FlyerTalkers either know, or care, that Talk Board exists.
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At this point, however, I think that having a "read only" Talk Board forum is about the only thing that could bring efficacy to, or rejuvinate any general interest in, Talk Board. As it stands, I would be very surprised to learn that the vast majority of FlyerTalkers either know, or care, that Talk Board exists.
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Perhaps I am just not looking enough.
Mar 14, 2004, 1:50 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Goldlust:
I agree! I am sure you are right - most FT'ers I meet have no idea what the TalkBoard is. I myself have not noticed the TB contributing anything positive to FT.
Perhaps I am just not looking enough.</font>
I agree! I am sure you are right - most FT'ers I meet have no idea what the TalkBoard is. I myself have not noticed the TB contributing anything positive to FT.
Perhaps I am just not looking enough.
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Mar 14, 2004, 1:56 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Goldlust:
I agree! I am sure you are right - most FT'ers I meet have no idea what the TalkBoard is. I myself have not noticed the TB contributing anything positive to FT.
Perhaps I am just not looking enough.</font>
I agree! I am sure you are right - most FT'ers I meet have no idea what the TalkBoard is. I myself have not noticed the TB contributing anything positive to FT.
Perhaps I am just not looking enough.
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Mar 14, 2004, 1:57 pm
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In the past month I have been in 9 different countries with literally dozens of different Flyer Talkers. We have talked about miles, points, upgades, future trips, flight loads, Freddie Junior, various travel trials and adventures, passport stamps, airport club lounges, celebrations, food, wine, skiing, and oodles of other things, inluding our favorite Flyer Talkers, but I don't recall any discussions about Talk Board.
I do, however, think wharvey's thread is very interesting--but am still not exactly sure how it relates to TalkBoard.
various travel trials and adventures, passport stamps, airport club lounges, celebrations, food, wine, skiing, and oodles of other things, inluding our favorite Flyer Talkers, but I don't recall any discussions about Talk Board. I do, however, think wharvey's thread is very interesting--but am still not exactly sure how it relates to TalkBoard.