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Closing the Smoking Section Forum [Update: it will stay open]

Closing the Smoking Section Forum [Update: it will stay open]

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Old Oct 1, 16, 2:01 pm   -   Wikipost
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Post #116 by the Community Director:

"I've no plans to close the forum."

Originally Posted by SanDiego1K View Post

It's great to see new voices in this thread. Some have just learned of the Smoking Forum and hopefully will now use it. For the many reasons listed above:
  1. It's a resource forum that doesn't require give and take conversation to be of value
  2. Smoking has become a negative topic in general. This forum is a safe haven for discussion.
  3. It doesn't take resources from other forums

I've no plans to close the forum.

Carol
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Old Sep 13, 16, 8:02 am
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Since the talkmail has attracted a lot of new participants to this thread, and not everyone will go back an read all posts in the thread, I'll repost what I posted earlier:
Originally Posted by UA1K_no_more View Post
If the main use case for the Smokers Lounge is to have very short threads with wiki-like posts rather than having active discussion threads, why can't the information for different locations/hotels/airports/etc. be collected and maintained in a wiki post in a larger and more frequented forum instead of having a separate forum?
As tcook052 pointed out, the more forums there are, the more fractured FT becomes.
A separate "eating at JFK" forum targeted at a niche group and with individual threads for each restaurant would probably generate the same wiki-like threads as the Smokers Lounge.
Separate niche forums for "eating at JFK", "eating at EWR", etc. would probably generate just as much traffic as the smokers lounge forum, and quite possibly even more traffic, but that doesn't mean that such forums should be started since the information can be collected in wiki posts in larger forums. The same applies to the wiki-like posts in the Smokers Lounge. Why not have a single wiki instead of a separate forum if the main intent is to inform rather than discuss?
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Old Sep 13, 16, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by gerilege View Post
I was not even aware until the newsletter that this forum exists, but will have a look now.
Longtime lurker and this is, I think, my first post. I didn't know this forum existed either, but as a smoker and frequent traveler, I will check it out.

This strikes me as just another thinly-veiled attack against smokers. Well, not so thin.
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Old Sep 13, 16, 8:45 am
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Talk-mail sure seems like a sure way to trivialise a subject.

Again, there has been no attacks against smokers in this thread.
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Old Sep 13, 16, 10:08 am
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Former smoker. I'd like to see the forum stay. Closing it will only spread the requests for information across multiple other forums. Granted it's not a very busy forum, but a lot of the information is static by nature. People aren't debating the pros or cons of smoking, vaping or what have you. It is, by it's nature, going to be a lower posting environment simply because smoking is on the decline. But it's still a valid and valuable resource both for those Flyertalkers who do smoke, or who may want to avoid specific areas or properties because they permit smoking.

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Old Sep 13, 16, 10:44 am
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I still don't see a compelling reason to close that forum.
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Old Sep 13, 16, 11:01 am
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Looking at the latest round of posts on this subject, I'm seeing an overwhelming majority of people (something like 35-2) wanting the forum kept open. I'm also not seeing any compelling or new evidence worth closing it.
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Old Sep 13, 16, 11:12 am
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Same here.

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Old Sep 13, 16, 11:44 am
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Although I do not smoke, it seems cruel to delete a thread that helps those who are looking for a place to make their travels as smooth as possible. If it is deleted, it will be started again at some point. Allow it to remain.
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Old Sep 13, 16, 11:58 am
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Keep Smoking Forum

I find this information valuable. I don't see why limited use should shut it down. It's not as if keeping it means losing something else. For smokers it's valuable and for the rest of us, we can ignore it.
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Old Sep 13, 16, 12:21 pm
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I'm a non-smoker, and don't see why we would want to shut it down if it helps a sub-set of FT users. And believe me, I've had my share of being royally pissed off by inconsiderate smokers (but that's NOT the question here).

On the practical business side of things: If there are smokers willing to continue to curate it, why would you stop offering this content? Doing that only diminishes the overall value of the site to current and future FT community members.

I'm also an IT guy, and certainly see no technical reason why shutting it down would be beneficial. The hosting resources required for keeping this forum are trivial.
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Old Sep 13, 16, 1:03 pm
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It's great to see new voices in this thread. Some have just learned of the Smoking Forum and hopefully will now use it. For the many reasons listed above:
  1. It's a resource forum that doesn't require give and take conversation to be of value
  2. Smoking has become a negative topic in general. This forum is a safe haven for discussion.
  3. It doesn't take resources from other forums

I've no plans to close the forum.

Carol
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Old Sep 13, 16, 1:47 pm
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Great news!!!

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Old Sep 13, 16, 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by SanDiego1K View Post
[*]It's a resource forum that doesn't require give and take conversation to be of value
Carol, that is a crucial point and one which I believe that many of those who oppose the forum do not understand.

If I post that there are smoking areas airside in Bucharest, and give a general description of where they can be found, there is very little that needs to be added. I don't expect every FTer who smokes and flies into Bucharest to add anything to that thread unless he discovers that the situation has been changed or, if the thread is an old one, to confirm that smoking is still allowed there.

It is enough that he has seen the thread amd knows in advance that he will be able to light up to make the thread a valuable one, even if my post is the only one in it.
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Old Sep 13, 16, 5:07 pm
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I just learned of the Smoking Forum. Thank you for keeping it open.
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Old Sep 13, 16, 5:15 pm
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I saw this in TalkMail and am chiming in because I always do what email tells me to do.

I vote for keeping it open.
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