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Voting Ended / Motion Passed: Creation of a Smoking Section

Voting Ended / Motion Passed: Creation of a Smoking Section

 

Old Jun 29, 15, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by super-mileage-fan View Post
Oppose -- The issues of smoking should be debated on neutral ground within FT, not in a pro-smokers forum.
I don't believe the proposed forum is about being pro or anti-smoking. The proposed subtitle notes "Discussion of Practical Issues...."

I'm a smoker and I wouldn't be using the forum to take a pro-smoking stance, I already know it's bad for me. That said, I choose to smoke and I choose to travel, so having a sub-forum that relates to practical aspects of traveling as a smoker would be beneficial to me.

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Old Jun 29, 15, 5:26 pm
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Originally Posted by swag View Post
I see a lot of parallels between "traveling as a smoker" and "traveling with a pet". What hotel chains have what policies for guests who smoke/have a dog; what airports have smokers lounges / pet relief areas; suggestions for smoke/pet friendly hotels in XXX... and just as there are some who would argue against all smoking in public, there are those who oppose all pets in hotels & airplanes.

So if the Traveling with Pets forum has been accepted, the Smokers Forum should be too.
That's a very good point!

Smokers have real problems while traveling. They need someplace to discuss those problems -- and solutions.

I strongly support creation of this forum.

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Old Jun 29, 15, 5:28 pm
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Originally Posted by somedude3210 View Post
I don't believe the proposed forum is about being pro or anti-smoking. The proposed subtitle notes "Discussion of Practical Issues...."

I'm a smoker and I wouldn't be using the forum to take a pro-smoking stance, I already know it's bad for me. That said, I choose to smoke and I choose to travel, so having a sub-forum that relates to practical aspects of traveling as a smoker would be beneficial to me.

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I totally agree with you. Nobody has proposed discussing the pros and cons of smoking per se. The proposed forum would be a place where smokers could discuss their peculiar issues: where to smoke and not smoke, etc.

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Old Jun 29, 15, 5:29 pm
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Originally Posted by super-mileage-fan View Post
Oppose -- The issues of smoking should be debated on neutral ground within FT, not in a pro-smokers forum.
What makes you think this is a forum to debate the issue of smoking? I see zero discussion of the recent SCOTUS decision in the GLBT forum, no anti-Muslum/Chrsitian/xxx debates in the Religious Travelers forum, no "kids should be in their own section" debate in the Travel with Children forum.

I would assume proper moderation would move smoking debates to OMNI.

I think the key question is whether there's enough of a demand for a new forum.
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Old Jun 29, 15, 5:33 pm
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Originally Posted by CPRich View Post
What makes you think this is a forum to debate the issue of smoking? I see zero discussion of the recent SCOTUS decision in the GLBT forum, no anti-Muslum/Chrsitian/xxx debates in the Religious Travelers forum, no "kids should be in their own section" debate in the Travel with Children forum.

I would assume proper moderation would move smoking debates to OMNI.

I think the key question is whether there's enough of a demand for a new forum.
This is how I see the issue. Yeah, more moderation than "normal" may be required in such forum, but the real issue, to me, is whether there is enough demand. I will be watching the public commentary carefully.
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Old Jun 29, 15, 6:55 pm
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Why not, we have special fora for other special interest groups.

I support this.
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Old Jun 29, 15, 7:00 pm
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Originally Posted by super-mileage-fan View Post
Oppose -- The issues of smoking should be debated on neutral ground within FT, not in a pro-smokers forum.
You're going to have to take that debate to OMNI/PR, because it won't be allowed in the Smoking Section.
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Old Jun 29, 15, 7:02 pm
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You're going to have to take that debate to OMNI/PR, because it won't be allowed in the Smoking Section.
Isn't the idea to debate issues of smoking? Or is super-mileage-fan talking of sociological or health issues?
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Old Jun 29, 15, 7:03 pm
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I no longer smoke but I think this is a great idea. I can remember being very frustrated getting to an airport that at one time had a smoking lounge and then when I got there they no longer had one.
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Old Jun 29, 15, 7:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas View Post
Isn't the idea to debate issues of smoking?
No. It's to exchange information on the practical challenges of smokers who travel.

It's just like Pets. We talk about traveling with pets but we don't debate whether it makes sense to have a pet.
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Old Jun 29, 15, 7:09 pm
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No. It's to exchange information on the practical challenges of smokers who travel.
Oh, that's what I read "issues of smoking" to mean.
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Old Jun 29, 15, 7:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas View Post
Isn't the idea to debate issues of smoking? Or is super-mileage-fan talking of sociological or health issues?
No, the idea is for smokers to have a flame free area to discuss things like hotels that allow smokers, where to find smoking areas in airports, etc. In the regular forums, those threads tend to get overwhelmed with Puritanical castigation of the smokers, unfortunately.
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Old Jun 29, 15, 7:23 pm
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Precisely!

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Old Jun 29, 15, 8:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Doc Savage View Post
No, the idea is for smokers to have a flame free area to discuss things like hotels that allow smokers, where to find smoking areas in airports, etc. In the regular forums, those threads tend to get overwhelmed with Puritanical castigation of the smokers, unfortunately.
Can you share the threads where this has occurred or is this more theoretical like the demand for this forum.
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Old Jun 29, 15, 8:10 pm
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I support the creation of a smoking forum.
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