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Old Jun 24, 2015, 11:20 am
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I frequent the Gaming forum and have learned several good tips there. While I could hunt around a bunch other websites to get some of the same information, it's certainly easier to have it here on FT where I get the scoop on other loyalty programs. What does it hurt to keep open?
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by kokonutz
But I think every single flyertalker has a 'moribund' forum that they are passionate about. You and cblaisd with Travel News, for example (which is not just moribund but redundant). baccarat_king with the Gaming Loyalty forum. Me with the External Resources forum.
There are only 2 forums with less daily activity than Gambling Loyalty, Cuba and Antarctica. There are 95 forums with less activity than Travel News. Travel News gets an average of 9 posts a day while Gambling Loyalty get .7. I'd hardly call Travel News "moribund". Would you consider Gambling Loyalty, Cuba or Antartica moribund?
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by tom911
There are only 2 forums with less daily activity than Gambling Loyalty, Cuba and Antarctica. There are 95 forums with less activity than Travel News.
I think you're referring to "new threads/posts" instead of "activity" if you're basing your statement from nsx's spreadsheet. IMO, "activity" implies the inclusion of views.

Views, however, may be unobtainable statistics since no one answered my earlier question:

Originally Posted by FindAWay
How many views (rather than posts since views relate more to traffic than posts) has the forum received this year in comparison to other specialty fora?
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 1:10 pm
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Is your data counting threads that get moved OUT of Travel News? If so, not sure you should be counting those.... because they did not belong there!

Originally Posted by tom911
There are only 2 forums with less daily activity than Gambling Loyalty, Cuba and Antarctica. There are 95 forums with less activity than Travel News. Travel News gets an average of 9 posts a day while Gambling Loyalty get .7. I'd hardly call Travel News "moribund". Would you consider Gambling Loyalty, Cuba or Antartica moribund?
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 1:28 pm
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Originally Posted by FindAWay
I think you're referring to "new threads/posts" instead of "activity" if you're basing your statement from nsx's spreadsheet. IMO, "activity" implies the inclusion of views.
The numbers I posted are from the posts/day column and that's the activity I'm commenting on.

Originally Posted by wharvey
Is your data counting threads that get moved OUT of Travel News? If so, not sure you should be counting those.... because they did not belong there!
I didn't list the new threads per day - that's an entirely different metric. Gambling Loyalty, as an example, gets .03 new threads per day. Travel News, for comparison, gets .79. External Resources gets .38. I think the posts per day provides a better overall indicator of how users participate in any forum.

We'll have to get nsx to comment on what goes into his report. I don't know how he comes up with the final numbers and whether they include material merged, deleted or moved after the initial post across all the FT forums.
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by wharvey
Is your data counting threads that get moved OUT of Travel News? If so, not sure you should be counting those.... because they did not belong there!
There is that. And the views metric that FindAWay mentions.

Then there is the fact that compared to the benchmarks of BA, UA and even DL, Travel News is, statistically speaking, a rounding error's difference from gaming loyalty and Cuba.

That's why this focus on metrics is so misguided: in Lilliput even a midget is tall.

Decisions ought to be guided by best practices and a strategic vision, not metrics lacking benchmarks.

And, again, I find that gaming loyalty lands squarely in the vision and best practice of what FlyerTalk ought to be.
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 1:35 pm
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Originally Posted by tom911
We'll have to get nsx to comment on what goes into his report. I don't know how he comes up with the final numbers and whether they include material merged, deleted or moved after the initial post across all the FT forums.
I read the numbers straight off this page: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/
and its subpages.

I don't know if the thread count includes redirects (pointers to moved threads).
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by kokonutz
And, again, I find that gaming loyalty lands squarely in the vision and best practice of what FlyerTalk ought to be.
I agree.

and, this is the moment when I realise this entire "issue" is all my fault.

If I would just start one new compelling thread each week (in Gaming Loyalty Programs), this wouldn't even be up for discussion. Considering that there is a ton of interesting "casino loyalty stuff" out there (more interesting, than the "New Delta Tumi Amenity Kit" thread I started in the Delta forum yesterday...); I could have easily avoided all of this angst.

Damn me for spending more time over the past year+ on non-gaming miles+points.
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by kokonutz
Decisions ought to be guided by best practices and a strategic vision, not metrics lacking benchmarks.
Are many lightly used forums such as this one in the strategic vision? How low does the activity have to be before it falls outside the strategic vision?
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by baccarat_king
I agree.

and, this is the moment when I realise this entire "issue" is all my fault.

If I would just start one new compelling thread each week (in Gaming Loyalty Programs), this wouldn't even be up for discussion. Considering that there is a ton of interesting "casino loyalty stuff" out there (more interesting, than the "New Delta Tumi Amenity Kit" thread I started in the Delta forum yesterday...); I could have easily avoided all of this angst.

Damn me for spending more time over the past year+ on non-gaming miles+points.
.....but then we'd miss your contributions to the DL forum, including the new Tumi amenity kit thread.

Would Mr. Leo be willing to assume your self-imposed duties to post more often in the Gaming Loyalty forum? Perhaps in exchange for a promise of even more frequent pampering in the AMS KLM lounge? And more cute photos of the this posted on FT? He is a casino hound, isn't he?
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 4:30 pm
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Originally Posted by tcook052
Are many lightly used forums such as this one in the strategic vision? How low does the activity have to be before it falls outside the strategic vision?
I don't think there's a lower limit if there's no other reasonable place for the threads. That's the case for the Antarctica forum.
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 5:33 pm
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Originally Posted by nsx
I don't think there's a lower limit if there's no other reasonable place for the threads. That's the case for the Antarctica forum.
The same could be said for the Gaming Loyalty threads.
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Old Jun 28, 2015, 5:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Canarsie
Based on the input of fellow FlyerTalk members — the most important criterion, in my opinion, as they are whom I represent as a member of TalkBoard — my inclination is to leave the forum alone.
Same here.

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Old Jun 28, 2015, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
The same could be said for the Gaming Loyalty threads.
More true than not. I think the forum should stay, even if there aren't a lot of users. If FT is going to offer one-stop shopping for loyalty programs of all sorts, we need to cover this area properly.
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Old Jun 28, 2015, 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by nsx
More true than not. I think the forum should stay, even if there aren't a lot of users. If FT is going to offer one-stop shopping for loyalty programs of all sorts, we need to cover this area properly.
Alright well color me convinced, glad we had this discussion ^
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