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kipper May 30, 2015 7:56 pm


Originally Posted by Eastbay1K (Post 24893473)
You are correct. But then, the "appearance of a kumbaya moment" will not occur.

:D ^

Markie May 30, 2015 11:25 pm


Originally Posted by Eastbay1K (Post 24893473)
You are correct. But then, the "appearance of a kumbaya moment" will not occur.

Ah yes, that's important of course. Let's hope for some revolution come the elections!

SkiAdcock Jun 1, 2015 9:29 am


Originally Posted by tcook052 (Post 24882130)
If the intent is to catch small oversights I don't see this as really necessary given the recently adopted waiting period between site-wide announcement and the opening of TB voting on motions may itself prove helpful in catching minor errors that can be corrected before voting begins.


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 24882215)
I still say no to this as TB should take the time, listen to the comments and get the motion right the first time but if something is missed (other than a simple typo), withdraw the motion or have TB members simply vote no to kill the motion and re-do the motion to get it right


Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 24885690)
Agree. The route proposed in the motion is too circuitous. Any motion in its final form should be subjected to a de novo up or down vote.

Agree.

Canarsie Jun 2, 2015 6:57 am

While it is not an excuse, the motion which contained the typographical error committed by me occurred while I was traveling; and I was simply trying to get the process going.

I am human...

Originally Posted by Markie (Post 24894632)
Ah yes, that's important of course. Let's hope for some revolution come the elections!

What — are you trying to get rid of me already?

I just got here...

SkiAdcock Jun 2, 2015 9:41 am

Typos don't need a minor amendment process unless TB has totally jumped the shark. No need to apologize for a typo unless it significantly changes a motion. Just say oops, sorry, fix it, & move on.

Cheers.

Canarsie Jun 2, 2015 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 24907051)
Typos don't need a minor amendment process unless TB has totally jumped the shark. No need to apologize for a typo unless it significantly changes a motion. Just say oops, sorry, fix it, & move on.

When arriving at decisions as a moderator, I usually defer to what FlyerTalk members think, as FlyerTalk members are typically quite sharp at deciphering and understanding situations. That has worked remarkably well for me in the past.

I personally see things similarly with decisions to be recommended by members of TalkBoard — especially as our top priority is to represent what FlyerTalk members want...

...so I agree with you — although I do not look like Fonzie on a surfboard in Hawaii...

Markie Jun 2, 2015 11:09 pm


Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 24906215)
While it is not an excuse, the motion which contained the typographical error committed by me occurred while I was traveling; and I was simply trying to get the process going.

I am human...What — are you trying to get rid of me already?

I just got here...

Unfortunately we won't agree that you have the power to make minor amendments to motions. It's a fundamental difference we have debated in other threads. Without a specific power for this, the changes are ultra vires in my view.

Feel free to change the Guidelines and the problem goes away!

kokonutz Jun 5, 2015 1:08 pm


Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 24908136)
...so I agree with you — although I do not look like Fonzie on a surfboard in Hawaii...

Fonzie was on water skis and was in LA. @:-)

I voted for this motion because I'd rather have minor changes done by a set of rules rather than by Presidential fiat.

Canarsie Jun 5, 2015 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by kokonutz (Post 24925006)
Fonzie was on water skis and was in LA. @:-)

I voted for this motion because I'd rather have minor changes done by a set of rules rather than by Presidential fiat.

The president of TalkBoard gets his own car?!?

I am going to have to run for office next year...

jason8612 Jun 7, 2015 8:40 am

Motion will pass

In accordance with the guidelines that means we'll announce if a motion has passed or failed once enough yes or no votes have been recorded by TB members, this is the public notice that this motion will pass as it has secured 6 yes votes.

Please note that not all TB members have voted yet, and so a final announcement with who voted yes/no will not be posted until all 9 have voted or the voting period ends.

goalie Jun 7, 2015 9:10 am


Originally Posted by jason8612 (Post 24932045)
Motion will pass

In accordance with the guidelines that means we'll announce if a motion has passed or failed once enough yes or no votes have been recorded by TB members, this is the public notice that this motion will pass as it has secured 6 yes votes.

Please note that not all TB members have voted yet, and so a final announcement with who voted yes/no will not be posted until all 9 have voted or the voting period ends.

Not pleased but also definitely not surprised

kipper Jun 7, 2015 9:26 am


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 24932179)
Not pleased but also definitely not surprised

I'm not either. It seems that there's less listening to what members want and more doing whatever they want.

Canarsie Jun 7, 2015 9:39 am

I had not voted yet as I am currently traveling.

Greetings from Bahrain...

rwoman Jun 8, 2015 1:16 am


Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 24932289)
I had not voted yet as I am currently traveling.

Greetings from Bahrain...

Nor have I as I just came off LHR-LAX-LHR (food poisoning) HEL-BKK-CDG-FCO-OSL-LHR last week (a week of work) and LHR-SVG-LHR yesterday.

Wanted to read through things on a regular screen vice just my phone before voting.

rwoman Jun 8, 2015 1:29 am


Originally Posted by rwoman (Post 24935294)
Nor have I as I just came off LHR-LAX-LHR (food poisoning) HEL-BKK-CDG-FCO-OSL-LHR last week (a week of work) and LHR-SVG-LHR yesterday.

Wanted to read through things on a regular screen vice just my phone before voting.

Having sifted through the thread again, I've voted, "No" even though the motion has passed and I'm in the minority.

We all make mistakes and common sense should persist, but I believe in doing our best collectively to get it right in the first place.


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