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Motion Passed: Renaming Airline & Hotel Chain Forums

Motion Passed: Renaming Airline & Hotel Chain Forums

 
Old Nov 5, 13, 10:57 am
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I'm still really confused. Currently, B6 is listed as JetBlue True Blue. The proposal will change that to JetBlue | True Blue. Fine, but how is that anything more than a cosmetic change - i.e. how is that substantively going to help teach new FFP names or lower confusion?
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Old Nov 5, 13, 12:41 pm
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Originally Posted by T8191
I have completely misunderstood Post #1 then.

Thank you for enlightening me so nicely.

There are times when I wonder why I bother with FT.
I hope this helps. From Wikipedia...
In the United States, to table usually means the to lay [the topic] on the table or to move for postponement of consideration; a proposal to suspend consideration of a pending motion. Much less often, it means a motion to "put on the table": a proposal to begin consideration (or reconsideration), a usage consistent with the rest of the English-speaking world.

In the rest of the English-speaking world such as the United Kingdom, to table means to move to place [the topic] upon the table (or to move to place on the table): a proposal to begin consideration (or reconsideration) of a proposal.
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Old Nov 5, 13, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by joshwex90
I'm still really confused. Currently, B6 is listed as JetBlue True Blue. The proposal will change that to JetBlue | True Blue. Fine, but how is that anything more than a cosmetic change - i.e. how is that substantively going to help teach new FFP names or lower confusion?
As mentioned in the motion, "changing the airline and hotel forums names to better illustrate that topics in the forums can be either regarding the entity or the loyalty program, and adding a forum description for each. (Example of forum description: "For all discussions related to United Airlines and the Mileage Plus program")"

Because the current main header/category (for example) is airline programs & then a listing of them, a # of newbies don't know if they're allowed to post something in an airline forum that doesn't pertain to the program itself. This will change to airlines/hotels and their programs to indicate both. Currently there are no airline or hotel forum descriptions, so one such as the example given above re: United will be created for each one to further indicate that discussions can be regarding the entity as well as the program & not just the program.

So on the one hand yes it reads as a bit minor, but on the other hand it's intended to clarify something that has been confusing to date & also shows how FT has evolved from when the forums were first created/focus was strictly on the programs.

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Old Nov 5, 13, 1:42 pm
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Understood - thanks!
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Old Nov 5, 13, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by LaserSailor
I feel the time has come in the UA forum to split it into Fora dedicated to mileage plus program issues and company issues. People with legitimate enquiries into flying/ redeeming are lost in the sea of comments on company performance.
OT for this thread, but funnily enough, I literally just posted a very similar idea elsewhere on FlyerTalk.

This is absolutely a discussion worth having.

Here's what I posted (in response to another user stating that once a forum reaches a given volume of traffic, it begins to become significantly more difficult to keep running smoothly):

I think you've hit on something: there comes a point where a forum is simply too big to function well without some intervention. Obviously, that point has been reached in several of our forums. I'm kind of disappointed I'm just seeing this now that my TalkBoard term is ending, but I think it'll be a good discussion to have: I think it's a reasonable argument to look at breaking some of these mega-forums up into manageable chunks.

What will that look like? I don't know, and that's part of the discussion we need to have. Maybe splitting them up into operations and rewards programs would be a start. Maybe creating a subforum for "Policy Debate" (like TS/S has) to move the most contentious topics and provide a place where the vocal arguers can hang out and post all they want while leaving a more peaceful place the rest of us can actually learn stuff in. I don't know; I don't have the solution, but at this point, all I am doing is identifying that there is a problem and that we need to look at some creative ideas for fixing it.
The place for this discussion is likely a separate thread, not this thread, but I just wanted to get this out there for people to chew on.
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Old Nov 7, 13, 11:43 am
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LOVE it!

And as simple and no-brainer as this change seems, I can tell you it took a LOT of work by those involved, especially SkiAdcock, to compile these, take input, make changes, take more input, etc. etc.

Well done, Sharon! ^
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Old Nov 7, 13, 11:08 pm
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Originally Posted by jackal
OT for this thread, but funnily enough,....
OT is On Topic, right?
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Old Nov 8, 13, 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by philemer
OT is On Topic, right?
And a motion is ... oh, forget it.

Trying to hold conversations across the Atlantic can be just too difficult sometimes.

Have a happy debate/discussion/argument about an idea/proposal/table/motion, which I think I supported, whatever it's called.
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Old Nov 8, 13, 3:15 pm
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I'm in favor. I think newbies will be more likely to know the name of the airline rather than the FFP and will help in looking for it easily.

One thing to note, however is this will not be easy with hotel as many chains share one program. I'd suggest putting the most important chain. For Carlson do - Radisson - Club Carlson. For Choice - either Comfort Inn/Quality Inn. This would align with the merged airlines that share a FFP.
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Old Nov 8, 13, 3:25 pm
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Suggest moving the Discontinued FFP to archieve

When one looks at the normal forum under Miles - Points : http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles-points-1/

I can't help but but wonder why the Discontinued Programs/Partners is still there? We always talk about not digging up old threads and yet this entire forum still exists. Is there really any point in keeping this mini forum alive especially with this renaming of forums? Are you going to rename them too?

May I also suggest that Malaysia Airlines / Enrich get their own forum? As more ow members come by and ask questions on MH on the OW forum, it gets moved to the "Other Asian, Australian, SWP FFP" ... I suggest that airlines that don't have their own forums remain on their respective alliance forums instead of being moved to the former.
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Old Nov 8, 13, 4:07 pm
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Just a thought, some of the airlines have "clubs" within their miles programs, for example Marco Polo(CX) PPS(SQ)…..should they also not be recognized/listed ?
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Old Nov 9, 13, 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by LaserSailor
UA forum to split it into Fora dedicated to mileage plus program issues and company issues.
Perhaps a nightmare for mods, but I agree with this post for all "major" carriers domestic and international.
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Old Nov 11, 13, 9:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
May I also suggest that Malaysia Airlines / Enrich get their own forum? As more ow members come by and ask questions on MH on the OW forum, it gets moved to the "Other Asian, Australian, SWP FFP" ... I suggest that airlines that don't have their own forums remain on their respective alliance forums instead of being moved to the former.
That came up a while ago in this thread, (while searching for it, I see that you had some posts in that thread). It didn't get very far, apart from a few people who had no real interest in the airline not feeling that it was necessary to create such a forum. As someone who enjoys flying MH I'd like to see it happen.
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Old Nov 11, 13, 10:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
When one looks at the normal forum under Miles - Points : http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles-points-1/

I can't help but but wonder why the Discontinued Programs/Partners is still there? We always talk about not digging up old threads and yet this entire forum still exists. Is there really any point in keeping this mini forum alive especially with this renaming of forums? Are you going to rename them too?
I agree with this. I'm not sure about one aspect- forums that are closed to posting such as NW and PMDL seemingly could be relocated to this as well. But these older programs add to a bit of clutter on the main page. They just get the occasional 'test' post these days.
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Old Nov 12, 13, 2:48 am
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I would agree with some of the above posts... I would like to see some lesser used/lesser known airlines/programs be lumped into groups. And I would still like to see or be able to access older programs (like NWA, etc) but have them grouped as well. Sometimes people need to go back and look at old notes or read and even use something from an old post. It is good to have it readily available. I guess if it takes too much disk space up it could be purged but I am no IT guy so I leave that to them.

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