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On October 7, 2013, Talkboard passed 6-3:
"The Talkboard recommends the creation of Four Budget Airlines forums"
Budget Asian, Australian and South Pacific Airlines
Budget European Airlines
Budget Middle East and Africa Airlines
Budget North and South America Airlines
Voting Yes: Cholula, HansGolden, MSPeconomist, nsx, RichMSN, SkiAdcock
Voting No: goalie, jackal, kokonutz
(lower right wiki corner)On October 7, 2013, Talkboard passed 6-3:
"The Talkboard recommends the creation of Four Budget Airlines forums"
Budget Asian, Australian and South Pacific Airlines
Budget European Airlines
Budget Middle East and Africa Airlines
Budget North and South America Airlines
Voting Yes: Cholula, HansGolden, MSPeconomist, nsx, RichMSN, SkiAdcock
Voting No: goalie, jackal, kokonutz
Voting Over, Motion Passed: Create Four Budget Airline Forums
Oct 7, 2013, 11:06 am
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Yup.
I just counted, and 13 of the 30 threads on the first page of the Alaska Airlines forum have absolutely nothing to do (at all) with the Mileage Plan program. Several of the rest are about the experience on the airline that are only very slightly related to the FFP. We are now much more than miles and points.
I just counted, and 13 of the 30 threads on the first page of the Alaska Airlines forum have absolutely nothing to do (at all) with the Mileage Plan program. Several of the rest are about the experience on the airline that are only very slightly related to the FFP. We are now much more than miles and points.
Oct 7, 2013, 11:48 am
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For the recrord, I have voted "no" on this proposal and, if it had failed, would have immediately suggested a proposal to retitle the "Other ___ Airlines" forums to accommodate budget/LCC carriers.
Unfortunately, as SkiAdcock has indicated, the deed is done, and the vote will pass. If it appears after a year or so that it would work better, perhaps the TalkBoard can merge the budget/LCC forums into the respective Other forums.
Oct 7, 2013, 1:07 pm
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I also voted no.
I like to think that if the language of this motion had been posted in this forum before a motion was made and seconded, a good discussion could have taken place to fine a solution that had my firm support rather than my utter dubiety. Hopefully this best practice will be followed in the future.
But with so little certainty of mind I could not bring myself to support the motion to recommend creating these 4 new forums.
That said, assuming the CD accepts this recommendation, I do fervently hope that they all succeed without over-diluting the other 'Other' regional airline forums.
I like to think that if the language of this motion had been posted in this forum before a motion was made and seconded, a good discussion could have taken place to fine a solution that had my firm support rather than my utter dubiety. Hopefully this best practice will be followed in the future.
But with so little certainty of mind I could not bring myself to support the motion to recommend creating these 4 new forums.
That said, assuming the CD accepts this recommendation, I do fervently hope that they all succeed without over-diluting the other 'Other' regional airline forums.
Oct 7, 2013, 1:14 pm
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jackal and koko, I respect your opinions and I thank you for studying the issue. In the public and private discussions of this issue I found opinions all over the map. It's not clear that any alternate version of this proposal would have obtained a 2/3 Yes vote.
The main reason for the 4 forums was to match the existing structure. If we want to change the structure for Other Airlines the count might decrease. Also, if the larger budget airlines (EasyJet and RyanAir at a minimum) ever get their own forums then jackal's idea of merging to create "Budget and Other" regional forums might work well. In my opinion that approach should be the top candidate if in the future modification appears necessary.
The main reason for the 4 forums was to match the existing structure. If we want to change the structure for Other Airlines the count might decrease. Also, if the larger budget airlines (EasyJet and RyanAir at a minimum) ever get their own forums then jackal's idea of merging to create "Budget and Other" regional forums might work well. In my opinion that approach should be the top candidate if in the future modification appears necessary.
Last edited by nsx; Oct 7, 2013 at 1:20 pm
Oct 7, 2013, 1:18 pm
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Oct 7, 2013, 1:20 pm
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On October 7, 2013, Talkboard passed 6-3:
"The Talkboard recommends the creation of Four Budget Airlines forums"
Budget Asian, Australian and South Pacific Airlines
Budget European Airlines
Budget Middle East and Africa Airlines
Budget North and South America Airlines
Voting Yes: Cholula, HansGolden, MSPeconomist, nsx, RichMSN, SkiAdcock
Voting No: goalie, jackal, kokonutz
"The Talkboard recommends the creation of Four Budget Airlines forums"
Budget Asian, Australian and South Pacific Airlines
Budget European Airlines
Budget Middle East and Africa Airlines
Budget North and South America Airlines
Voting Yes: Cholula, HansGolden, MSPeconomist, nsx, RichMSN, SkiAdcock
Voting No: goalie, jackal, kokonutz
Oct 7, 2013, 1:20 pm
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Oct 8, 2013, 1:58 pm
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I am a 'yes' for the European Budget Airlines forum...
Oct 8, 2013, 2:05 pm
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Oct 8, 2013, 2:20 pm
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Oct 8, 2013, 6:09 pm
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Are there examples somewhere of the airlines to go in each?
Oct 8, 2013, 6:19 pm
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Probably almost anything on Sharon's list here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/talkb...l#post21541668
Oct 8, 2013, 6:20 pm
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Probably almost anything on Sharon's list here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/talkb...l#post21541668
Oct 8, 2013, 6:24 pm
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Sorry, I've been on my iPhone all day and won't have access to a computer until late tonight.
Oct 9, 2013, 1:35 am
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Probably almost anything on Sharon's list here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/talkb...l#post21541668