hobo13

True, but what's your point?

If you really think that CC is all that's left, then the MB forum is going to turn into a ghost town once those threads are removed!

Last one out of MilesBuzz, turn out the lights. LOL.

mia

1. The same credit card offers are often discussed in parallel threads in three areas:

• The forum of the sponsoring airline or hotel program.
• A forum in the Credit, Debit and Prepaid Card Programs group.
• MilesBuzz!

This change transfers extended discussion from MilesBuzz! to Credit Card Programs after the thread has lost its buzz. Fresh exceptional card offers will continue to be discussed in MilesBuzz!, but the threads will no longer linger there after the offer is expired or the character of the discussion changes. If you subscribe to the thread it will be easy to follow when it moves. If you read other threads in Credit Card Programs you will learn much more about the card issuers policies and practices, which are not specific to particular cards.

2. Credit card offers discussed in MilesBuzz! are of interest only to American residents. Residents of other countries come to FlyerTalk looking for information about travel, but instead found one of the gateway forums dominated by discussions of credit cards. Cards which they cannot obtain. Moving these threads to another forum will restore the topic balance in MilesBuzz!, and make MilesBuzz! equally valuable to members worldwide.

3. FlyerTalk's Wiki feature is a powerful new tool which will make the content of long threads much more accessible to occasional readers, and it should make it straightforward for a summary of information to appear in MilesBuzz! even though the discussion takes place elsewhere. We delayed moving the card threads until this feature was live.

Credit card threads have been gradually migrating out of MilesBuzz! for several months, some to the sponsoring airline or hotel forum, some to Credit Cards Programs, American Express Membership Rewards or Chase Ultimate Rewards. The perception that Credit Card Programs primarily discusses cashback cards is factually incorrect. The Credit Card Programs forum hosted the original discussions of churning Citi AAdvantage cards, long before there was any mention of this topic in MilesBuzz!.

All FlyerTalk moderators are volunteers. We have full time jobs, families and the usual personal and professional responsibilities. We are not paid by Internet Brands. We are here to make judgements. When we make a change it is because we believe it will make FlyerTalk better, for all members, but we recognize there will be transitional inconvenience for some members. We make decisions carefully, in consultation with each other and the Community Director. Ideas are robustly debated and refined. We test changes on a small scale before broad implementation. We value feedback, but only if it is respectful and includes sufficient reasoning to improve our understanding.

84fiero

Yet FT seems to be stuck there.

stupidzbu

sure, but the UR & MR threads I agree with ... they are their own beasts

I guess having a wiki sticky could solve issues of having the same thread in multiple locations

I'm amazed it isn't possible to have the same thread in multiple forums..

nsx

Here's my new attempt in the Southwest forum:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/20784406-post1.html

We'll see where it goes.

tom911

It's in the rules. The Talk Board does have the ability to change the rules.

jackal

Well, we have the ability to pass a resolution that requests the Community Director to consider making a change to the rules. To date, TalkBoard has not pursued passing a motion that challenges something that's at the core of the status quo like that.

I believe nsx was referring, though, to the technical ability to have a thread show up in multiple forums (where clicking through to the thread actually takes you to the same thread), something he's long advocated for. It is not possible in this version of vBulletin and likely won't be something IB would devote the resources to implementing, although perhaps if the TalkBoard pushes for a resolution requesting it, the vBulletin team may hear our cry...

tom911

I understand what you're saying (a thread across multiple forums allowing global comments that would populate all of the threads?). I think it's a great idea though can't recall any recent public discussion on the topic. Has Internet Brand indicated any interest in making this happen?

We had this ability (global comments) in the Comm Center I retired from. If you took a call on a shooting, it would generate simultaneous incidents for both police and fire and from that point forward any comments entered would populate both calls.

stupidzbu

That is actually what I meant also ... where instead of 3 threads on the same topic, you have one thread listed 3 times as a link to the solitary thread

If that where to happen, would MB then eventually remove that link at their discretion?

lin821

In case you missed my reply in post#56, the existing threads about multi-tagged thread (one thread in mutiple fora) are followed:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sugge...rk-though.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sugge...le-forums.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/sugge...le-forums.html

As you can see, this idea (or request for new feature) isn't new. Certain folks see the need and had been proposing it since 2008. It's been 6 full years.

Just like our newly enabled wikipost feature, wikipost had been "requested" by certain FTers since May 8th, 2008, the exact same year the idea of multi-tagged threads was touched on.

As it turned out, it took almost 6 years for FT/admin/IB/whoever-in-charge to make wikiposts happen on FT when other IBBs like FW & SD have been having it since 2007 or something. In terms of adapting to "modern" technology, FT is really years behind. Let's see how many more years IB will catch on and better FT with this multi-tagged capacity for threads. But as we all know, we simply have no idea about IB's priority w/r/t FT improvement, when there's year-long unsolved problem.

tom911

Sounds like the best strategy, then, is not to expect this to happen and come up with alternative solutions, such as allowing the same post to be manually posted in multiple threads. Looks like the last thread on this topic was back in 2010. Some of out current Talk Board members were not in office back then, so they might want to take a look at those threads.

jackal

Exactly.

lin821 also forgot to mention the years-long broken daily forum summary email problem.

For being one of the flagship brands of a company with $100 million in revenue and over $10 million in profit, it sure seems like we should be seeing a much, much better user experience than we are now...

84fiero

I guess as long as FT is profitable as-is, no need for them to invest time and resources into improving it. If MilePoint could manage to get the content and info level that FT has, I can't imagine bothering with FT anymore.

lin821

I only showed you what's on the top of FT laundry pile right now. Is it time to recite FT's laundry list (of never-gone-away technical problems)?

You think?

nsx

Posters in the Southwest forum say the same about Southwest's website. And they're right. It's a rare company that's willing to spend the money necessary to build a great website software.

Still, I would expect a company whose business includes reselling that software to be at the top in website functionality.